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New TiVO Coming?

Discussion in 'TiVo Series3 HDTV DVRs' started by hybucket, Jul 13, 2007.

  1. HDTiVo

    HDTiVo Not so Senior Member

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    VOD/SDV? :eek:

    There is definitely a lot more here than meets the eye. Lots to figure out. Very stimulating.
     
  2. bkdtv

    bkdtv New Member

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    They are still using the same basic Broadcom MIPS CPU. Based on Broadcom's performance claims, the MIPS CPU in the TivoHD is about 7% faster than the one in the Series3, but aside from that they're virtually identical.

    They'll "just" be using drivers for the new encoders and ATI tuners rather than drivers for the Broadcom encoders and Samsung tuners.
     
  3. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    Ah, ok, that makes more sense, I wouldn't qualify for a multi unit discount.
     
  4. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

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    I knew Mega would have it covered. :)
    TiVo told me they began designing this new model 14 months ago. I assume they didn't announce it because they didn't want to kill S3 sales. As it is, S3 sales have probably stalled in the last month with all the TiVo HD leaks. I don't know why anyone would buy an S3 going forward. Well, until TiVo starts offering some blow-out prices (speculation) to clear their inventory maybe before the holidays.
     
  5. aindik

    aindik Well-Known Member

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    That's my fault for assuming that most people here already have a TiVo. :)
     
  6. audio

    audio New Member

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    This may be an odd question.

    This box does record analog and digital cable as well as analog and didgital OTA.

    Given this, could the box function without CableCards, ie, with just basic cable and OTA?

    Most of the HD programming I watch is OTA anyway. Given the problems with SDV, as long as it can function the same as my Series2, with the added bonus of OTA HD, this will be well worth the cost of upgrading.
     
  7. Arcady

    Arcady Stargate Fan

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    My Series3 box worked great for weeks without cablecards, only recording basic cable and OTA. I don't see why the new box would behave any differently.
     
  8. chandler1818

    chandler1818 Member

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    So, when S3 dies (which is a pretty safe assumption based on what denny apparently said), my S3 will continue to receive all of the necessary upgrades because it is based on the same architecture as the new tivo hd? I would hate to eventually be shut out of any new features. . .
     
  9. 20TIL6

    20TIL6 BaDoop BaDoop BaDoop

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    Certainly that is my view as well. Just because the S3 will probably no longer be sold after current inventory is depleted, it does not mean it is anywhere near end of life. Not by a longshot in my opinion.

    I have two S3's, and yeah, I spent some coin. But for TiVo as a company, I'm thrilled about the new, less expensive unit. I'll be adding one of the new ones to my home.
     
  10. chandler1818

    chandler1818 Member

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    20TIl6, I hope that is not just wishful thinking on our part.
     
  11. blips

    blips Active Member

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    My dad has a Series 1 with lifetime. Would he qualify for the Multi-Service Discount?
     
  12. SugarBowl

    SugarBowl Member

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    as long as the lifetime tivo has called in to Tivo once in the last 180 days.
     
  13. blips

    blips Active Member

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    Great! He is sold his house and is moving to a new one in August. He took it down in May. Hopefully it made successful calls up to that point.
     
  14. Adam1115

    Adam1115 20,000!!! TCF Club

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    My wild outrageous (outragous??) "claim / statement" was simply an opinion. But, I based it on my knowledge of how long it takes to redesign electronics, circuit board, put them through testing, have them certified (fcc, etc.) That takes more than a few months in any industry I've worked in, so why is it so wild and crazy to think that it's been in the works all along? The series 3 has only been out for 10 months, you think they just thought of this 6 months ago?

    There have several comments from people that have said they heard first hand from TiVo that this was in development before the Series 3 shipped.
     
  15. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    This doesn't seem unreasonable to me, in fact I would guess that their next release is in development know. The issue I think some had was your previous post made it sound like you believed this unit was ready last fall and TiVo held it back waiting for the current Series 3 to sell out. I find that highly unlikely.

    Thanks,
     
  16. 20TIL6

    20TIL6 BaDoop BaDoop BaDoop

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    I'm not worried at all.
     
  17. davezatz

    davezatz Funkadelic

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    Yep, that's exactly how I tested it.
     
  18. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    nice write up dave adn Megazone.

    I still think what everyone is missing here is TiVo's desire to make the two product lines on the same manufacturing line. analog market still has a lot of legs in it given the lack of any real competition in the analog market. However TiVo is not interested in keeping manufacting capability around the S2 line long term. So they design this motherboard and case so they can make either the Tivo HD or the S2 DT model from same basic parts. That is step 1 and means the DT changes in looks a little bit and we see the 540 version of the DT come to light. I think the leaked TCD653080 is about a model like that.

    next may be the integration of parts from the two lines into one universal box? This one I am not so sure about. Why would I want to pay for IR blasters I would not use? why add to the cost of either box? The only change I can see Sat having in TiVo's strategy is if they do some deal with E* to settle the suit. Even at that I can not see E* opening up its box but instead working out dev deal on its existing hardware or some other integrated E* only box.

    anyway glad to see TiVo thinking ahead with this box to future times. Nice work :up:
     
  19. ZeoTiVo

    ZeoTiVo I can't explain

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    no, that simply means that MRV/TTG will work ofr anything tha tis not recorded via an encrypted digital stream. so an open cable channel of HD or HD off the OTA is fair game and does not need any nod from cable labs. Denny went so far as to say anything without a broadcast flag which is interesting as well.

    we know tivo told megazone directly that they are working on bringing MRV/TTG before the end of the year to the S3 and soon after to Tivo HD (most likely since they have to work to merge the Tivo HD code branch back in and get to one Os for the S3 and Tivo HD.

    so any concerns about MRV/TTG is based on thinking about the old TiVo of years ago. Like you yourself said HDTiVo - this new box and its fast delivery time should have everyone saying hello to the new tiVo inc. :up:
     
  20. Mike20878

    Mike20878 Jake & Adam's dad

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    How does the cableCARD work? Would there be some kind of cable/cord hanging down the front of the box? Or does a cableCARD just give you permissions to view content that still comes over coax?
     

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