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New Roamio on the way! Can I transfer existing Premiere recordings to new Roamio?

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by David D, Dec 31, 2013.

  1. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    A word which is one letter longer than its definition.
     
  2. lynn02

    lynn02 New Member

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    Is it possible to get shows from my Series 2 stand alone to my Roamio Plus? If so, can someone walk me through step-by-step? Hopefully, I'll have the Roamio set up this weekend.
     
  3. jonglee

    jonglee New Member

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    I have the same exact situation (old Premiere and a new Roamio) and have a clarification. Will the transfer work even if the old TiVo doesn't have an M-Card?

    The reason is because I only have one TV and want to transfer the shows then give the old TiVo away. They both have lifetime subscription. So if I understand the posts correctly, I just need to have the old TiVo on the network, then set up the new Roamio and do the transfer from the new Roamio?

    Would appreciate any other tips!

    Thanks in advance!
     
  4. laria

    laria Librocubicularist

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    Yes, it's got nothing to do with your cablecard... it just goes over your home network.

    We were transferring from S3's that had single stream cards.
     
  5. mattack

    mattack Active Member

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    Yes.

    1) hook Roamio & Series 2 up to the same network.. both have to be subscribed and have the same MAK (i.e. Tivo knows they're on the same account)
    2) on Roamio, 'go into' the Series 2, which will be at the bottom of Now Playing
    3) for EACH SHOW, you enter it and 'transfer this recording'.

    Depending on how many shows you have, it's VERY tedious.

    Seriously, it may be easier to transfer them to a COMPUTER with kmttg, then one by one (as you watch them) to the other Tivo by running pyTivo on the computer..
     
  6. laria

    laria Librocubicularist

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    If you already have those things set up, yes, it is, but they are not the most intuitive to set up if you are not technical.

    Personally, I did not want to lose the metadata with the show, so even though it was extremely tedious, I just did it through the built in way.
     
  7. ggieseke

    ggieseke Active Member

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    On a Series 2 it's better to transfer to your computer with TiVo Desktop or kmttg. Direct MRV transfers from S2s lose a lot of the metadata. They're also slow as hell even with a hard-wired connection. I just finished copying everything from my stack of four S2DTs with 500GB drives and it took more than a week with two computers copying 24/7.

    Once they're on your computer you can transfer them back with Desktop or pyTivo.
     
  8. rlcarr

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    Speaking of transferring things to new Roamios...

    The tivo.com Season Pass Manager only shows Season Passes. Does that mean it can only be used to transfer Season Passes? Does that mean I'm going to have to re-enter in all my wish lists (auto-recording and non-auto-recording) by hand on the Roamio?

    Also, when working with a Roamio will the iOS app let you create wishlists? And if so, will it let you use the iOS virtual keyboard to type things in? Or will have have to do that damned "move the cursor on the TiVo screen with arrows" thing? If the latter, any alternatives for the Roamio other than plunking down the $50 for a Roamio slide remote? (I assume (?) the slide remote will let you directly type things -- correct me if I'm wrong!)

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    And of course now I see that TiVo is out of stock of Roamio slide remotes. So wait an unknown amount of time or pay $30 over face value to get one from Weaknees. Grrr.
     
  9. TiVoJimmy

    TiVoJimmy Member

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    I just went through this. You need to recreated your Wishlists manually. You can use the iOS keyboard to enter text in the text boxes, just navigate with remote for everything else.

    Also, don't try to copy all SPs via the website at once. It doesn't copy them in order. I had to manually move them back in order on the Roamio, either via the TV or the app.
     
  10. rlcarr

    rlcarr Member

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    Great.

    But can you use the tivo.com Pass Manager to reorder them once they're copied to the Roamio? Or is it easier/better to do that from the iOS app?
     
  11. TiVoJimmy

    TiVoJimmy Member

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    It is better on the app or on the TiVo itself. The website is only good for doing a massive copy or delete of SPs
     
  12. worachj

    worachj Active Member

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    I used KMTTG to transfer my Season Passes and Wishlist to my new TiVo and its free.

    http://sourceforge.net/projects/kmttg/
     
  13. David Platt

    David Platt !Texas TCF Club

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    Yep, another vote for KMTTG. It will save a ton of work.
     
  14. snoopdogg1

    snoopdogg1 New Member

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    My season pass requests transferred seamlessly via the TiVo website. Can somebody explain what KMTTG does? From what I read, it looks like it can transfer shows from TiVo to mobile devices and computers, but Roamio does that now, right? Would KMTTG help me get around the Time Warner Cable restrictions on downloading/streaming shows onto my iPad, and from Tivo box to Tivo box? It's frustrating to not be able to transfer a show I legally recorded on my HDXL onto my new Roamio!
     
  15. lynn02

    lynn02 New Member

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    I must not have something set up right. I don't see the Series 2 at the bottom of my Now Playing. How do you make sure they are both on the same network?
     
  16. ort

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    I'm having some weird problems.

    I have my new Roamio, and it's been activated by TiVo but doesn't have a cable card or cable connection yet.

    I tried to use the online season pass manager to transfer my shows, but it doesn't seem to be taking. When I go and look at my season passes on the TiVo, I get this message...

    It's been displaying this message for about 12 hours now. Restarting the TiVo and forcing a new connection did nothing.

    Also, while it does let me transfer shows from my Roamio, it goes ridiculously slow and will only let me do one at a time. An hour long show is taking about 2 hours to transfer, and while it's transferring, it won't let me select another show to transfer. I push over to select the transfer option and it just hangs up and does nothing. Eventually I can back out of the screen, but my choice does not stick.

    I'm guessing that this is because it's hung up on transferring the season passes. Because when I look at the To Do list it gives me the same error message as I get when I look at the Season Pass Manager.
     
  17. ort

    ort Member

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    Just to follow up, the season passes did eventually come through, it just took about 2 days.

    Also, turning off wifi and hard wiring my Roamio and Premiere into my network solved the transfer speed problem. Having one hard wired and the other not was really screwing things up. It was also killing my wifi speeds in the house, which was pretty weird, but I'm 100% certain that's what was doing it.

    Which is weird because in the past my Premiere was wireless and my TiVo HD was wired and show transfers were always fine.

    Eh, whatever, it works now.
     
  18. Hot4Bo

    Hot4Bo Finally an Avatar! TCF Club

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    I had no idea I could transfer my season passes to my new Roamio! That's awesome!
     
  19. mpnret

    mpnret Member

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    Anybody have a feel for how fast? I am currently experiencing about 40 minutes for a 30 minute show. Transferring from a XL4 on a wireless adapter to a wired Roamio Pro. If anyone is experiencing significantly faster times I could temporarily hard wire the XL4. If not I will just continue as is.
     
  20. L David Matheny

    L David Matheny Active Member

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    I've transferred only one show from my Premiere to my new Roamio (basic) so far, using a wired connection. I believe the one-hour high-def show (6GB) transferred in about 22 to 25 minutes. (I didn't notice exactly.)
     

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