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New program for 1 step TTG downloads, decryption, encoding - kmttg

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by moyekj, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. Feb 16, 2010 #1921 of 10413
    bkdtv

    bkdtv New Member

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    Does anyone recall the usable space (as reported by kmttg in GB) for...

    1. a TivoHD; (21 HD hours)
    2. a TivoHD XL (157 HD hours)
    3. a TivoHD upgraded with a 1TB drive (157 HD hours), if different from above; 915GB
    4. a TivoHD with a 500GB My DVR Expander (93 HD hours);
    5. a TivoHD with a 1TB My DVR Expander (165 HD hours); and
    6. a TivoHD XL with a 1TB My DVR Expander (300 HD hours)

    Perhaps a future version of kmttg could retain/track the largest reported in-use capacity from session to session, if not pre-defined by the user. I believe TivoPlaylist does that.

    Edit: To clarify, I'm not looking for the number of hours reported on the TiVo's System Information screen. I'm looking for the number of Gigabytes reported by kmttg for each configuration when all disk space is used.
     
  2. Feb 16, 2010 #1922 of 10413
    cburbs

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    stock tivo HD -Saves up to 20 hours of HDTV (180 hours of SD) at least this is what the Tivo site says.
     
  3. Feb 16, 2010 #1923 of 10413
    Icarus

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    7. S3 with custom (ST3750840SCE.ACD) 750GB esata expansion - 143 HD hours, 617.3 (stock internal drive + original S3 esata expansion)

    not sure why kmttg reported 640.6 earlier
     
  4. Feb 17, 2010 #1924 of 10413
    keenanSR

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    3. a TivoHD upgraded with a 1TB drive (157 HD hours) - 915GBs

    Same for Series 3 with 1TB internal upgrade.
     
  5. Feb 17, 2010 #1925 of 10413
    orangeboy

    orangeboy yes, I AM orangeboy!

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    This would be hard to determine, no? Isn't the only gauge of when "all" disk space is used when Suggestions (if enabled) stop recording and the RDF has 0 programs? Knowing the size of the OS partition(s), and subtracting that from the total I think would be the best way to measure what you are after. That number could then be fed to kmttg as the "Total Disk Space" to report against (graphically or otherwise).
     
  6. Feb 17, 2010 #1926 of 10413
    sw2315

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    I have tried using the following profiles for Ipod Touch conversions - ff_ipod_high_res, ff_ipod_low_res, hb_iphone, hb_ipod. Everything works fine, it seems, and I can even import the resulting files into Itunes and play them in Itunes and QuickTime with no problem. However, when i try to sync my Ipod Touch it gets an error saying it cannot sync these files because they cannot be played on my ipod. If I go into the Itunes menu and do a conversion using "Create an Ipod or Iphone version" from within Itunes on these files, then they will sync to my ipod. This converson from within Itunes is very slow. I want the conversion from kmttg to work and be able to sync to my ipod without using the Itunes conversion.

    By the way, I tried using DVD Catalyst to convert the same files for my Ipod and it works fine. I do not have to use the internal Itunes conversion from DVD Catalyst.

    I would much prefer to use kmttg for everything and not have to use DVD Catalyst.

    Does anyone have any ideas what may be going on here?
     
  7. Feb 17, 2010 #1927 of 10413
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    I don't have an iPod/iTouch etc. so can't test. Perhaps the following tweak though may fix the issue. Under the kmttg 'encode' folder edit the ff_ipod_high_res.enc file and change -vcodec mpeg4 to -vcodec libxvid and save it. Then re-start kmttg and try using the ff_ipod_high_res profile to see if that fixes it. For quicker testing I would recommend using a 1 minute recording from your TiVo to test with. If that still doesn't work then using h.264 video codec may be next thing to try. Options for that are a little more complicated so please try the above tweak first.
    P.S. Re-reading your post it's strange that the Hanbrake profiles don't work either since they are already using h.264 and all the specs seem to be correct.
     
  8. Feb 17, 2010 #1928 of 10413
    chazas

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    I happily use KMTTG to download and convert files for my iPhone, even though much of the discussion on this thread is a bit technical for me.

    I already had VideoRedo because a while back I was having problems with audio synch - at the time the other version wasn't guaranteed to work with .tivo files, so I bought TVSuite. I just upgraded to TVSuite4 because, well, it didn't cost much - maybe I should have saved my $26. Can anyone tell me the benefit of using VideoRedo to to the encoding? It seems to me to be just a slow as Handbrake on my old Thinkpad. It works fine, but I can't see any great advantage to it. What am I missing?
     
  9. Feb 17, 2010 #1929 of 10413
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    If you already have a working flow using kmttg then benefits may be less obvious, but in general the benefits are:
    1. Single tool to decrypt TiVo files, edit out commercials and encode to other formats while preserving A/V sync. I think eventually TVS4 will add Blu Ray authoring capability as well.
    2. Gives you a GUI for setting up your own custom encoding profiles albeit some of the more advanced encoding options are currently hidden/not available.
    3. Gives you ability to edit mp4/H.264 files.

    Having said that the h.264 encoder as part of TVS4 is still in it's infancy and there are some capabilities and options either hidden or missing so it can't do everything that some of the public domain encoders can such as x264, ffmpeg, hanbrake, etc. But as the product matures I'm sure Dan and company will be working to add a lot of the missing features & functionality so over time it will become more and more useful.
    I've done a little benchmarking vs ffmpeg and don't see a huge difference in performance so I don't think that can be claimed as an advantage.

    Of course the other down side is it only runs on Windows, so if you use Mac or Linux platforms then it's not really an option unless you use Wine or similar.
     
  10. Feb 17, 2010 #1930 of 10413
    marissacorey

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    Hi, new to TivotoGo and just recently came across kmttg. I've tried using it to download and convert .tivo files to mpeg and it seems to work fine, however, when I try using Avidemux to edit the mpeg file, the video opens in Avidemux as stretched (lengthwise). I've tried using different encoding profiles but none seem to make a difference. I thought maybe it had something to do with the Avidemux program, but when I open other files in there it seems to work.

    Does anyone have a suggestion?

    I'm admittedly not a very technical person, so I'm sorry if I'm not making sense or if the solution is an obvious one. I also did a search but couldn't find any information. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks.
     
  11. Feb 18, 2010 #1931 of 10413
    chazas

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    Using TVSuite4 to convert SD shows to the iPhone/iPod touch profile, at least for me, results some sort of de-interlacing/jaggie problem in the resulting file. Whenever something moves on screen or the scene changes, everything around the changing pixels shows lines, like I am looking up close at a large TV showing bad SD programming on pause.

    Any suggestions? I suppose I should also go to the VideoRedo forms and ask.
     
  12. Feb 18, 2010 #1932 of 10413
    txporter

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    It sounds like you are converting the telecined frames as well. I don't have the new TVSuite4, does it have an option to Inverse Telecine or IVTC or something like that?
     
  13. Feb 18, 2010 #1933 of 10413
    chazas

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    Don't think so, but I will check.
     
  14. Feb 18, 2010 #1934 of 10413
    chazas

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    A reply from the VideoReDo folks in their forums:

    moyekj, is this option enabled when KMTTG calls up VideoReDo?
     
  15. Feb 18, 2010 #1935 of 10413
    moyekj

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    When using a VRD profile via kmttg it's IDENTICAL result to doing it through VRD GUI. In VRD if you select Tools->Edit Profile List... and then highlight "iPhone / ipod Touch" and then click on "Edit" button you will see that by default Deinterlace mode is set to Smart, so presumably this will mean progressive output. Note that there is a bug in TVS4 595 where it will indicate the output file is interlaced when it's actually not (there is a thread about that in VRD forums which indicates it will be fixed in 596). If you use Mediainfo to examine the output file you will see that it is indeed progressive.
     
  16. Feb 18, 2010 #1936 of 10413
    StanSimmons

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    Would it be possible to have kmttg, optionally, delete shows from the TiVo after processing, assuming that the TiVo has TivoWebPlus installed?

    For instance, to delete a particular show using TivoWebPlus on one of my TiVo's you could use the following url
    Code:
    http://10.0.0.53:8080/confirm/del/[B]1242283[/B]
    kmttg seems to know the show information by the same tag that TivoWebPlus does. In this case "1242283"
    Code:
    C:\kmttg\curl\curl.exe --retry 3 --anyauth --globoff --user tivo:MAK --insecure --cookie-jar C:\Users\ADMINI~1\AppData\Local\Temp\cookie2695328658443330584.tmp --url http://10.0.0.53:80/download/XXI%20Winter%20Olympics.TiVo?Container=%2FNowPlaying&id=[B]1242283[/B] --output "C:\kmttg\XXI Winter Olympics - Snowboarding, Biathlon (02_18_2010).TiVo" 
     
  17. Feb 19, 2010 #1937 of 10413
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    There probably is a very small minority of users with TivoWebPlus, especially with series 3 TiVos, but it could be implemented pretty easily by adding another config option. What stage would you want the web delete to happen? When .TiVo download file is removed after successful decrypt?
     
  18. Feb 19, 2010 #1938 of 10413
    StanSimmons

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    Flower...
    My setup is fairly unique, with two TiVoHD's running TWP, but there are a LOT of Series 2 (140/240) boxes out there that can easily be setup to run TWP. I keep hoping that TiVo will upgrade the web control stuff to allow show deletion on unhacked boxes.

    Yes, deletion after a successful decrypt (tivodecode or VideoReDo) would be ideal.

    I'd be happy to test and or provide access to my system if needed.
     
  19. Feb 19, 2010 #1939 of 10413
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    OK, I have a development version ready for you to try out the implementation. Please visit here for details and feedback:
    http://code.google.com/p/kmttg/issues/detail?id=90
     
  20. Feb 19, 2010 #1940 of 10413
    miguelakiira

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    I'm going a bit nuts.
    Videoredo starts qsfix and the process just sits there. It works when Kmttg is in GUI mode. I've reinstalled Videoredo, started as admin. I wish Kmttg gave me control of the Videoredo arguements, so that I can at least see what the issue is, since the log isn't helping. Anyone know why the Videoredo processes would hang?
     

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