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New program for 1 step TTG downloads, decryption, encoding - kmttg

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by moyekj, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. Jun 5, 2009 #801 of 10413
    bkdtv

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    Make sure you are using the latest version (v0p6d), uploaded yesterday.

    Note you may want to uncheck the option to "Use VRD Adscan instead of comskip." The commercial detection in the latest version of comskip -- included with kmttg -- is much more accurate than VRD Adscan, in my experience. You'll still want the VideoRedo path specified if you have it, because VideoRedo is much better than comcut for cutting detected commercials.
     
  2. Jun 6, 2009 #802 of 10413
    bkdtv

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    Here's a post from someone on AVS:

    I was able to confirm problem #1. If you only select metadata, and not decrypt, you get a d/l_filename.mpg.txt file.

    I believe issue #2 was discusssed in this thread a few days ago.
     
  3. Jun 6, 2009 #803 of 10413
    moyekj

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    For #1 it's kind of pointless to generate metadata files for .TiVo files isn't it since they have embeded metadata anyway? Haven't tried it, but sending .TiVo files back to to Tivo via pyTivo does not need metadata file I would think.
     
  4. Jun 6, 2009 #804 of 10413
    wmcbrine

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    Yes and no. When you pull a .TiVo file, the TiVo itself extracts the embedded metadata. However, before you actually pull it, when you're just viewing it in a pyTivo video share, pyTivo doesn't extract the metadata, so it doesn't display it. I'm working on changing that now, but in the meantime, it would sorta make sense to have metadata files for .TiVo files, yes.
     
  5. Jun 6, 2009 #805 of 10413
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    A feature request would be to be able to use KmttG to push to PC from Tivo. Galleon utilizes a TTG feature which allows you to send your programming to your PC from the TIVO through HME. Just a thought. Great Program all the same!
     
  6. Jun 6, 2009 #806 of 10413
    shwru980r

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    I used kmttg to downloaded the incredibles movie that recorded on my tivo hd. The file is 16 gigabytes. How can I burn this file to a standard DVD?
     
  7. Jun 6, 2009 #807 of 10413
    moyekj

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    That is a loaded question. First of all since it's HD it needs to be re-encoded to DVD compatible mpeg2 program format which will mean you lose a lot of quality. A single layer DVD fits around 4GB, a double layer around 8GB or so. Therefore you may want to consider if that's really what you want to do. You can already use pyTivo or streambaby to stream the movie back to your Tivo on demand without losing quality for example.

    Once you decode the .TiVo file to .mpg there are many, many programs to do what you want. VideoRedo TVSuite is an example of a non-free solution to do it. There are several free ways of doing it as well but beyond the scope of this thread to go through all the details and different methods - Google is your friend.
     
  8. Jun 6, 2009 #808 of 10413
    bkdtv

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    If a future version moves "Files" to a separate tab, I agree it would be a nice if we could select a compatible video file and click "send" to push it to a particular TiVo.

    Eventually, you might enhance the "auto transfers" function to work in two directions, so one could automatically "send" (push) back recordings with commercials removed.
     
  9. Jun 6, 2009 #809 of 10413
    castlemoyle

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    Wow! This is a great application! Thank you Moyekj! Discovered it this morning and I've played with it and am having fun. Plus it doesn't (so far anyway) affect my DVR/net connections like Desktop 2.7.

    I think I've seen an answer to my only question, but if I have a show unencoded to straight .mpg format, there's no reason to keep the .tivo file, right? And so I could convert all of my earlier .tivo files to .mpg and throw away the .tivo files.

    Thanks again for a great project.

    John
     
  10. Jun 6, 2009 #810 of 10413
    Yoav

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    .tivo files also include some 'metadata' (information about the show, like airdate, actors, etc). You can ask kmttg to export that information in a text format so tools like pytivo can later use it when pushing the movie back to the tivo.

    Or, if you don't much care for the extra information, then just convert .tivo->.mpg and throw away the .tivo files (as they are redundant, and not usable on other computers)
     
  11. Jun 6, 2009 #811 of 10413
    castlemoyle

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    I don't care about the metada (I don't think I do anyway...) I've been burning DVDs with the saved shows so I can watch them on ther road or in the office or wherever.

    John
    (Who just lost his connection between the dvr and the pc. yet again.)
     
  12. Jun 6, 2009 #812 of 10413
    Yoav

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    yep for burning DVDs your definitely don't care about the metadata. The only time you'll care about the metadata is for when you send the videos BACK to the tivo in the future.
     
  13. Jun 8, 2009 #813 of 10413
    bkdtv

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    Moyeki,

    Have you considered adding Streambaby as another autodownload, with a separate settings menu for that program?

    For settings, you could allow the user to browse and add folders, set their tivo.com username and password for push, etc.
     
  14. Jun 8, 2009 #814 of 10413
    moyekj

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    You mean as an alternative to using pyTivo for auto pushes which was prototyped earlier in this thread? If that's what you mean:
    * One main issue is I don't believe there is currently a mechanism to trigger a push in Streambaby outside of Streambaby itself via an http call.
    * Also, I think pyTivo is a little more robust in checking video compatibility and for setting transcode preferences for incompatible video pushes.
     
  15. Jun 8, 2009 #815 of 10413
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    Just curious; I used kmttg for the first time this weekend; took 8 1/2 hours to download, decode, encode, etc. an hour sd show. Is this usual? Worked fine though.
     
  16. Jun 8, 2009 #816 of 10413
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    No. Not from what I've seen.
     
  17. Jun 8, 2009 #817 of 10413
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    I'll add that I went wireless with Verizon dsl. Maybe that was the reason.
     
  18. Jun 8, 2009 #818 of 10413
    bkdtv

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    Encoding is heavily CPU dependent. Some recently x264 encode benchmark numbers from Anandtech.com:

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    In the above test, the one-hour 720p video would require 4.4 hours to encode with x264 on a P4 @ 3.46GHz, but only 55 minutes on a Core i7 @ 3.33GHz.
     
  19. Jun 8, 2009 #819 of 10413
    Yoav

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    Your question is very open-ended. 8.5 hours is pretty damn slow, but you didn't specify things like how fast your computer is, how fast your home network is, and what was your target encoding format.

    If the 'download' part is the one that took very long, I would blame your home network and try to speed up the connection. An hour-long sd show should take no more than about an hour to download (assuming you have a tivo HD), and with a good connection should probably take about 30 minutes.

    If the decode is slow, then you've got a bug going on. decode should be very fast.

    If the encode is slow, then that's an issue with your computer's speed and the target format, and you need to tell us what you were converting to. Certainly for a moderately old computer, if you tried to upscale it to 1920x1080 and use h.264 mp4 encoding, 8.5 hours is definitely reasonable. But I suspect that was not what you were encoding to.
     
  20. Jun 8, 2009 #820 of 10413
    bkdtv

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    Every video I've encoded with the ff_ipod_low_res profile exhibits out-of-sync audio when used without QSfix.

    The hb_ipod and hb_iphone profiles work fine, even without Qsfix.
     

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