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New program for 1 step TTG downloads, decryption, encoding - kmttg

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by moyekj, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. Sep 5, 2013 #5661 of 10413
    HeatherA

    HeatherA Old AVS Forum Member

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    I'm using KMTTG today to prepare for a new Roamio to enter the house. As I'm working on moving and getting files ready to trf to the new box, I am again so thankful we have this tool. It's one I use on a weekly basis and always appreciate, but when dealing with a heavy workload, as I'm giving it right now, my esteem just grows.

    Thanks again!
     
  2. Sep 5, 2013 #5662 of 10413
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    You're welcome!
     
  3. Sep 5, 2013 #5663 of 10413
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Service update:

    My S3 HD just got the 11.0m update
    The S2 540 was recently updated to 9.3.2c.

    Using KMTTG v0p9i and switched to curl instead of Java and can download from either tivo.
     
  4. Sep 6, 2013 #5664 of 10413
    ALbino

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    Is there any way to include in the next update of KMTTG whether a recording is MPEG-2 or h.264?
     
  5. Sep 6, 2013 #5665 of 10413
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    AKA Video Format?
     
  6. Sep 6, 2013 #5666 of 10413
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Moyekj,

    I am curious to see what the Roamio does on downloads speeds (in KMTTG) and whether its wired or wireless.
     
  7. Sep 6, 2013 #5667 of 10413
    ehagberg

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    I'd been using an older version of kmttg for some time now w/o any issues, but have just upgraded to a Roamio (plus) yesterday and started doing some program transfers to my PC of fresh recordings from the new box, using the latest version of kmttg.

    At first I had a couple recordings that were clipped at the end (like the last 5-15 minutes of an hour long show were just not present during the download, and they were there when played back on the tivo) so I tried accessing the roamio via the direct web interface and found that the programs were also clipped when downloaded that way, so it wasn't kmttg's fault, and in fact I assumed that maybe something in the programs were faulty and causing the clipping, since I'd been wrangling w/ Verizon to get the cablecard properly paired and maybe that injected bits of garbage into the streams...

    However, I then recorded more shows today and have noticed that the kmttg interface will stop updating sometimes (like halfway through the download) but the file size is clearly still incrementing, up to a point... then eventually the file stops getting bigger (at about the same size that the same direct web interface grab of the file shows on completion) but the kmttg interface never completes the download step and just hangs. This doesn't seem to happen on all programs, as I have successfully transferred a few shows without incident... but this is weird.

    Anyone else see this sort of thing before? I've even tried switching between using curl vs java for downloading, and get the same behavior.
     
  8. Sep 6, 2013 #5668 of 10413
    wmcbrine

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    Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be any way to distinguish them via the HMO interface. Everything's just marked as "video/x-tivo-raw-tts".
     
  9. Sep 6, 2013 #5669 of 10413
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Mostly if a recording stops transferring is because there are glitches in point(s) of the video and pausing at a few seconds/frames after those glitches will allow you to resume downloading.

    If this is happening on every recording, I'd see if its only on a specific or all of the channels. It may be a case of weaken signals, and Tivo will stop recording until there is sufficient signal strength to record from.

    The sizes of recordings on Tivo will not be an exact size as compared to the downloaded video on a computer, it would be smaller (about 95% of stated size on Tivo.) IE: a video on Tivo says 2.75GB, the same video downloaded will be around 2.5GB.
     
  10. Sep 6, 2013 #5670 of 10413
    ehagberg

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    But it doesn't just stop transferring - kmttg just hangs, even though the transfer is complete, at least that's what I'm seeing now. When I view the files (disregard the first ones that were recorded while cablecard issues were ongoing) they are the full length of the show... it just seems that kmttg doesn't realize it's done downloading and it can move on to the next program to download (or next step in running through qsfix, etc...)... and this seems to happen when kmttg's status thermometer stops updating, long before the file size stops growing.
     
  11. Sep 6, 2013 #5671 of 10413
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    aaronwt posted in 1 of the threads he managed 190 Mbps for TS transfer via Gige wired network. Last I tested I got ~120 Mbps on my Gige network, but my client is a 6 year old laptop so laptop write speed is the limiting factor in my setup. From what I recall even PS transfers weren't much slower for me either. So finally TTG transfers for me are no longer TiVo CPU limited :D.
     
  12. Sep 6, 2013 #5672 of 10413
    moyekj

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    Sounds like the GUI is hanging from your description which is a bug. Each transfer will run in its own thread so download will continue running even if GUI does hang.
    I haven't seen that behavior myself or reports from others. Can you provide more details, such as: OS, Java version, kmttg version, are you combining download/decrypt, etc? Also are you downloading individual recordings or using Auto Transfers-Run in GUI mode? Do you see any stack traces and/or error messages (red text) in message window?
     
  13. Sep 6, 2013 #5673 of 10413
    ThAbtO

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    I believe he was using TDP and I just wanted to know what KMTTG would actually show.
     
  14. Sep 7, 2013 #5674 of 10413
    ehagberg

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    Well it was happening under windows XP with the latest kmttg and latest java versions. I'd tried combined download/decrypt as well as separate, and I wasn't using auto-transfers in gui mode. No errors in the message window....

    _but_ it seems to have gone away now that I just did a simple reboot of the windows pc where this was happening. Weird. Nothing else on the pc was misbehaving like this so I didn't think to reboot (I'd been restarting kmttg frequently when the gui froze during downloads)

    Sorry for the noise, I guess.:(
     
  15. Sep 7, 2013 #5675 of 10413
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Sometimes a reboot of all Tivos and the router and computers cures most ills.
     
  16. Sep 7, 2013 #5676 of 10413
    bbrown9

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    I noticed that the guide style is the live guide style. I'd like to see an option for a grid style guide.
     
  17. Sep 7, 2013 #5677 of 10413
    tluxon

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    I use resume downloads a lot to grab small portions of large files, and with a 2TB drive, each playlist refresh takes several minutes. Any tips on speeding up the playlist refresh process on a large drive on a TiVoHD?
     
  18. Sep 7, 2013 #5678 of 10413
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    If you need only recent recordings under config-Tivos you can set "limit # of npl fetches" according to how refresh cycles are needed to be sufficient to get to the show(s) you want.
     
  19. Sep 8, 2013 #5679 of 10413
    aaronwt

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    I just used KMTTg today to download a bunch of Six Million Dollar Man and Bionic Woman recordings. Mostly from my Elite but some from my Roamio Pro. From my Roamio I was getting similar speeds.

    Although I am using v0p7k so I don't know what the difference is with my old version. I made my way to this thread from the kmttg site trying to find out about the lastest version.

    So what is the latest version and how do I update my current version? I installed this on my Tivo Desktop PC years ago and it's something I have not used very often. But it was perfect to transfer the 120+ episodes I had recorded from these two shows.

    EDIT: It looks like I installed kmttg in May 2010. With the newest version are there improvements or features that I can take advantage of, or is this old version fine?
     
  20. Sep 8, 2013 #5680 of 10413
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    With v1p0e, I found it seems to get the correct episode numbers, but it still displays a different number.

    IE: I have "This Old House [ep3324]" displayed' When I download it, it filenames it, "This Old House [ep3224]". The latter is correct, as it is also displayed in the video credits.
     

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