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New program for 1 step TTG downloads, decryption, encoding - kmttg

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by moyekj, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. Jun 29, 2013 #5341 of 10407
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Running v1p0b, I noticed some episode numbers were incorrect:

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    This Old House - Essex 2012/13: Liquid Assets
    Recorded Sat 06/29/2013 05:00 PM on 9-1=KQEDDT, Duration=30 mins, EpisodeNumber=3319, originalAirDate=2013-02-09
    Under v0p9i:

    The same program gives the correct episode number.
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    This Old House - Essex 2012/13: Liquid Assets
    Recorded Sat 06/29/2013 05:00 PM on 9-1=KQEDDT, Duration=30 mins, EpisodeNumber=3219
    Edit: the new key shortcuts "S" didn't work either. oh well, just a thought.
     
  2. Jun 29, 2013 #5342 of 10407
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    That's the difference between local guide listings and HDUI listings from TiVo. If you check HDUI show info it will match what v1p0b is giving you. Switch to SDUI and look at same show info and you will see what you are getting using v0p9i. Most of the time the HDUI listings are more complete/correct so that is what I'm using now.

    Huh? I haven't released a version with the "S" and "C" shortcuts yet.
     
  3. Jun 29, 2013 #5343 of 10407
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    I don't have a Premiere.

    I see.
     
  4. Jun 29, 2013 #5344 of 10407
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Then for series 3 kmttg must be configured with your tivo login information and it's getting info middlemind.tivo.com which matches HDUI information for series 4 TiVos.
     
  5. Jun 30, 2013 #5345 of 10407
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    Okay, I'll bite. So far I have only been using one Tivo Premiere (in recent times - before that it was an S2 for about six years). I do actually have a second Premiere, a refurb, which is still sitting around in the box it came in. I got that as a replacement when I first noticed the problem with partial downloads and mistakenly thought my Premiere was on its way out. To simplify things, I just kept my original after I learned about the partial download issue and that my unit was ok - and since my warranty period was up in a couple months anyway.

    Since I actually do have two Premieres, how would this MRV Resume work? Can someone point me to another thread? Could I use MRV Resume and then do a KMTTG transfer from one unit or the other without Tivo service for the second unit?

    I am thinking about only connecting this second unit when I absolutely need it for this process, in order to preserve it as a back up unit in case the original actually does fail for any reason.
     
  6. Jun 30, 2013 #5346 of 10407
    lpwcomp

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    An unsubscribed TiVo is pretty much useless and definitely won't work for this purpose.
     
  7. Jun 30, 2013 #5347 of 10407
    christheman

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    #1) Ok, so let's say I add my second Tivo to my service plan. Before I dump any extra money into this, has anyone ever actually tried this for the single purpose of extracting corrupted video that the Tivo is unable to send out over the TTG mechanism? Is it likely to work? Not sure what it might cost to add my second DVR to the plan. This is beginning to sound like it could be a money pit. It could also be a gamble, if it isn't likely to work.

    #2, #3) Other options might include obtaining a DVD-R recorder or a PC with the necessary hardware to do a "video transfer" from the the AV outputs of the Tivo. I could transfer the first part up to the first break point with KMTTG, then the rest with the DVD-RWs or PC. Again, a different type of money pit. Probably around $200 or $100 respectively.

    #4) The cheapest option would be to just wait around till it airs again, which could be a while.

    That being said, I would probably use #1 for every incident, whereas I would use #2, or #3 in conjunction with #4 depending on priority and frequency of airings.
     
  8. Jun 30, 2013 #5348 of 10407
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Another premiere with a monthly is 12.99 onto your tivo.com account. Not sure of whether there is a year commitment or not.

    You would lose picture quality using the composite (yellow/white/red audio) outputs, or S-Video. Plus, the picture would get a black picture frame around any of the HD video shrinking it down.
     
  9. Jun 30, 2013 #5349 of 10407
    christheman

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    Thanks for confirming that I would need to add the second box to my service agreement in order to do this.

    Also, thanks for the price. It looks like I won't be adding the second box, as that would double my grandfathered price that I pay.

    I guess I am lucky in that regard as I use SD at the highest Tivo resolution for recording. That gives me 720x480 standard DVD resolution, which actually exceeds the quality and resolution of some classic movies I also have on store-bought DVD.

    But it would probably be a nightmare to combine different resolutions and aspect ratios onto one movie. Sort of reminds me of the remastered version of Metropolis called "The Complete Metropolis," where previously "lost" footage was discovered in 16mm safety film format and spliced into the original 35mm footage to finally complete the movie. Only 70 years later. :)

    An interesting sidenote worth mentioning: Upon receiving my first Tivo Premiere, I was dismayed to notice that the S-Video connector had been discontinued and only the composite video and audio outputs remained. On a positive note, I was happy when I discovered that the quality of the composite video output on the Premiere is highly improved over the one they implemented on the Series 2 DT, thus almost voiding the need for an S-Video output in the first place. Kind of hard to believe...

    Well, I will probably be going shopping for a DVD recorder and just use DVD-RWs to complete my partial downloads.
     
  10. Jun 30, 2013 #5350 of 10407
    ThAbtO

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    If it was a Series 3 or earlier model Tivo, the secondary subscription rate is 9.95.
     
  11. Jun 30, 2013 #5351 of 10407
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    I assume that you do all of your recording from analog channels since that is only time in which you control the quality of the recording on a Premiere.
     
  12. Jun 30, 2013 #5352 of 10407
    christheman

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    I have been reading about those on this board, and that might be yet another option. It might sound ridiculous to some, but I could actually replace my existing Premiere with one of those and probably pay the same price for service that I am paying now.
     
  13. Jun 30, 2013 #5353 of 10407
    christheman

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    Yes. Less work on my end since I don't need to downconvert for it to fit onto DVD. Also I don't have to deal with any of the issues associated with digital cable cards. The video resolution is a non-issue for me since the bulk of my collection is old, often unrestored films.
     
  14. Jul 1, 2013 #5354 of 10407
    lpwcomp

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    What will you do if (more likely when) your cable company converts to all digital?

    One option that hasn't been mentioned: buy a Series 2 with lifetime service and use it for your middleman.
     
  15. Jul 1, 2013 #5355 of 10407
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    "Update tools" installs the PPC tivodecode on a Mac, thus 'breaking' kmttg in the process.

    I remembered having to manually download the intel version previously, so found the download link (though it's kind of hidden, not in the main 'installation on Mac' page IIRC).

    Is there some reason you can't have a fat version of tivodecode? or even if necessary, download either the ppc or intel version? (Does tivodecode even run on PPC machines?)
     
  16. Jul 1, 2013 #5356 of 10407
    christheman

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    I guess I'll figure that out when I need to, as the solutions might change. The quick and dirty for now: If the HD MPEG2 can successfully be compressed to SD and fit on DVD without losing too much, fine. That is exactly what I am doing now with SD MPEGs. Two hours is a rough dividing line for me between SL and DL DVDs for SD material. I try not to compress files much larger than 5.5GB to fit a SL DVD. Otherwise it goes onto a DVD-R DL with ImgBurn. Big emphasis on using ImgBurn for DL DVDs. Given that and my viewing habits, I mostly use SL DVDs.

    I have an Adobe program sitting around somewhere that can convert from MPEG to Blu-Ray format, so I could potentially make HD BD-R's if necessary. But due to simple economics and my viewing habits I actually prefer to work with SD.

    Biggest thing for me though would be to buy a next generation PC with copious amounts of processor power for the increased workload that would come with working on HD files.

    But it probably wouldn't hurt for me to get a cable card NOW just to get it all sussed out before the day they decide to shut the analog down.

    This is for the second DVR to help recover corrupted programs, right?
     
  17. Jul 1, 2013 #5357 of 10407
    moyekj

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    I don't have a Mac to test on so it's difficult for me to keep that package up to date since I do so blindly. I updated kmttg_MacOSX_tools_v0p8l.zip to use Intel binaries by default for tivodecode. There's also PPC version included in the package for those that need it, and I updated instructions in the Mac installation Wiki about using the PPC version. If you have a chance please try updating tools package again from kmttg to see if it works?
     
  18. Jul 1, 2013 #5358 of 10407
    lpwcomp

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    Yes, but it would only work for SD recordings, which is what I thought all of yours were. Are you also recording OTA? Or from clear QAM?
     
  19. Jul 1, 2013 #5359 of 10407
    wmcbrine

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    Yes.
     
  20. Jul 1, 2013 #5360 of 10407
    mattack

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    oops, I actually meant *does kmttg* even run/work successfully on ppc machines nowadays.
     

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