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New program for 1 step TTG downloads, decryption, encoding - kmttg

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by moyekj, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. Apr 1, 2013 #5081 of 10413
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    When you want to download from a paused point of the Tivo recording, you need to go to and select "Resume download" from the File menu. Press Refresh if it has not been done before you had set the pause point. Select the program to download and press "Start Job". It would then download from the set paused point.

    "Cancel Job" only stops the current jobs its doing or about to do in the middle window.
     
  2. Apr 2, 2013 #5082 of 10413
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Just like most Windows applications select the text and press Ctrl-C to copy to clipboard, then you can paste into browser. Other option is choose File-Save messages to file to save current message window contents to kmttg.log file.

    ThAbtO described how to download from pause point. As mentioned you have to 1st set pause point on TiVo, then refresh listings in kmttg and then download with "Resume download" set in kmttg.
     
  3. Apr 2, 2013 #5083 of 10413
    lpwcomp

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    If I am interpreting you correctly, I don't think there is way to do what you want to do. As previously documented, you can set the starting point but there is no way to select the end point.
     
  4. Apr 2, 2013 #5084 of 10413
    ThAbtO

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    True, you cannot set the end point, but I have done something else. I estimate how big a recording would be.

    IE: I have set a 2 hr manual recording, but I only need about 1/2 hr and the program I wanted is in the middle of that 2 hr recording. It is also an HD channel. I estimate the size to be around 5.5 gb. So I started transfer from my paused point. When I have 6 gb, which should be enough for the 1/2 program plus some extra time. I cancel the transfer at that point. KMTTG would spit out a few errors (about decrypt and QSfix) but ignored them. Manually start the decrypt and QSFix under files.
    Using VideoReDo, I edit out the commercials and the extraneous video after.
     
  5. Apr 2, 2013 #5085 of 10413
    NancyUSA

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    I think it's possible to set an end point. I found this regarding small segments in the kmttg wiki section for using kmttg (sorry I cannot post a link in this forum as I am too new if a member)

    Here it this text from the wiki under the section Resuming Downloads

     
  6. Apr 2, 2013 #5086 of 10413
    ThAbtO

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    See my previous post, with my example. That is how its done.

    You cannot just set the end point, BUT you can cancel AFTER you estimate the amount downloaded for the sufficient amount of data/video.

    You cannot just press Cancel after a few seconds or even minutes because that will just stop it immediately.
     
  7. Apr 2, 2013 #5087 of 10413
    NancyUSA

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    Yes this is exactly what I was doing. The clip I'm after is only about 1 minute. I was trying to decrypt and remove ads all in one go.

    This latest time I only created a tivo file with a small segment download. I then loaded that file into the job queue and selected decrypt. I did create a mpeg file, but it doesn't contain any video.

    PS is VideoReDo part of kmttg?
     
  8. Apr 2, 2013 #5088 of 10413
    ThAbtO

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    VideReDo is another program, albeit its not free, is for video editing, ie: removing commercials and any extraneous video. Its also only a Windows program.

    Perhaps you didn't download sufficient amount of data. How big was the file you downloaded?
    For about a minutes worth, you may need around 5 megs, if it was recorded on a digital channel, or 1 meg from analog.

    The error KMTTG spits out is because the download was interrupted and no "End of File" marker.
     
  9. Apr 2, 2013 #5089 of 10413
    NancyUSA

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    Thanks for the copy information. I always use right click and it seems to be disabled in this application.

    I did set the pause point on tivo and downloaded with "resume download". I think my main problem was thinking that i could get ads cut and decryption all done on one operation.

    I am now trying to just download a small segment, then in a separate operation decrypt the tivo file into a mpeg file. I have been able to create a mpeg file and it has the correct audio...but no video
     
  10. Apr 2, 2013 #5090 of 10413
    ThAbtO

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    What program are you using to play the video you downloaded? You may need a video codec installed since this isn't part of a typical system install. You might try:

    http://www.free-codecs.com/K_Lite_Mega_Codec_Pack_download.htm
     
  11. Apr 2, 2013 #5091 of 10413
    NancyUSA

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    Yes I think you are correct. I just installed VLC and it plays there...audio and video. I was trying to play it on media player and in movie maker.

    I would like to play this in movie maker so I can fine tune the clip. Can you help me figure out how to go about finding what codec I may need?

    Also I failed to refresh when I was downloading a clip and now when I re-position the start point and try to download I get the message "SKIPPING DOWNLOAD, FILE ALREADY EXISTS". I'm a bit unsure about deleting these file on order to start again in case there is a path issue.

    Edit: I see you have kindly included a link to codec files...thank you...they worked for media player..not movie maker
     
  12. Apr 2, 2013 #5092 of 10413
    ThAbtO

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    You would need to have "Overwrite existing files" checked, but in doing so, it would overwrite the files of the same name. for example, you recorded "Jeopardy" yesterday and today's as well. You select both to download, and have a file called "Jeopardy.TiVo" or even "Jeopardy.mpg" after its decrypted. Next, KMTTG downloads today's Jeopardy which will overwrite yesterday's files, because they are the same file names. So, I recommend you set under "Filenaming" to include something exclusive to prevent overwriting files (unless its the exact show you are trying to download). You could include something like, [year].[monthNUM].[day] at the end of the filenaming option.

    For my KMTTG Filenaming setting, I have:

    [mainTitle] - [EpisodeNumber] - - [episodeTitle] [year].[monthNum].[mday]-[hour].[min]

    As you can see, I have included the hour and min as well as the date, so if a recording happened back-to-back, it will not overwrite.

    Edit: I do not use MovieMaker any more, but have been using VideoReDo to do my editing as well as for DVD making.

    Edit2: Wow, I forgot how long Movie Maker takes to just to load a video file. I looked like it was loading in the entire 7 gb video file.
     
  13. Apr 2, 2013 #5093 of 10413
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    Thanks for adding [SeriesEpNumber] field which outputs in 's##e##' format. I may out in left field and the only one, but I use 'S##E##' format and have been since I've been archiving Tivo recordings. Any chance specifiying the case of the format in a future release?
     
  14. Apr 2, 2013 #5094 of 10413
    NancyUSA

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    Huge help. Thank you. I didn't see he "overwrite existing files" , Worked perfectly. I've got one clip from this program and I am going to use your filenaming advice to try and grab another clip with a slightly different name.

    I was able to clip my video in Youtube's editor, but I'm looking around for a free video editor.
     
  15. Apr 2, 2013 #5095 of 10413
    ThAbtO

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    You can use Movie Maker once the right codec is installed, but it seemed complicated to use compared to VideoReDo. If I remember, Movie Maker is time-based whereas VideoReDo is frame-based. This would not make much of a difference to some, but if you wanted to remove just 1 frame, in MM, you would have to cut out a series up to about 1/30 of a second. In VRD, just cut out that frame.

    If you look in KMTTG's configuration screen, under the first tab is the "Overwrite existing files".
     
  16. Apr 3, 2013 #5096 of 10413
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    I have been using kmttg with great success. Today when I ran metadata/decrypt/qsfix which I have done many times to get a normal mpg, I instead ended up with 2 separate files, an m2v with video only and a mpg with sound only. I believe these are supposed to be remuxed together, and the output of my jobs says that happened, but it doesn't appear to have actually happened. Anyone know what I broke and how to fix it? Thanks
     
  17. Apr 3, 2013 #5097 of 10413
    moyekj

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    Sounds like you are using ProjectX for "qsfix" and either the ProjectX demux or the ffmpeg remux step failed. Delete the m2v and ac3 files and start from FILES mode with .TiVo file and try "decrypt" and "qsfix" again and if same result post your message log here for more clues as to what is happening.
     
  18. Apr 3, 2013 #5098 of 10413
    sanjonny

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    i asked this a long time ago and I think it was not possible at the time,
    but when doing the automated qsfix, especially in SD channels where there is several variable frame sizes due to different commercials and such, i often have qsfix only pick up the commercial instead of the program. So it might qsfix and only result in a 2 minute file or whatever, instead of the say 55 minute program minus the outsized commercials.

    When I do it manually, I instead use 24 for the sample size and this basically so far has not failed me for correctly detecting the correct size for the program.

    Is it possible for us to customize this in the scripts or if not, can i suggest we up the larger sample size so that this error doesn't occur? I have noticed no significant difference in the time to process for this, though I imagine on a slow machine it might add a few seconds.

    Thanks in advance for your help and yes, the ipad and TWP delete buttons have been working completely correctly in all my usage in the latest p version
     
  19. Apr 3, 2013 #5099 of 10413
    moyekj

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    kmttg uses either ffmpeg or mediainfo to detect video dimensions, it's not done as part of VRD qsfix script since the VRD COM (batch) jobs have nothing related to detecting video dimensions available.
    Perhaps if you have kmttg use "mediainfo" instead of "ffmpeg" to detect video resolution it may work better. The latest Windows Tools package has "mediaInfo_cli" installation and you can point kmttg to MediaInfo.exe under that folder under Config->File->Programs for "mediainfo cli" entry.
    Note that before running the qsfix job when you have "Enable VideoRedo QS Fix video dimension filter" enabled kmttg will spit out the detected video dimensions to be used, so you should check if that is correct. (I'm assuming you already have that option enabled, and you should if you don't).
     
  20. Apr 3, 2013 #5100 of 10413
    sanjonny

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    Yes, dimension filter is/was enabled. It really only happens on SD, but it happens more often than it should. Will try the switch to mediainfo to see if it helps.

    One other strange thing, more of a videoredo issue, but recently, i had one recording processed that included variable frame sizes on qsfix. (commercials were different than programming AFTER qsfix) which might be a bug or something to do with how they are handing second audio streams. I am using the latest beta VRD so that might be it too, but I have not seen that in a few years so it was just weird as the dimension filter SHOULD kick that out.

    Thanks for your help, will let you know how it goes
     

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