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New program for 1 step TTG downloads, decryption, encoding - kmttg

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by moyekj, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. Mar 6, 2013 #4961 of 10413
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Can't reproduce it. I turned off Show Folders and selected 63 shows to download and clicked on START and all queued normally for me as expected.
     
  2. Mar 6, 2013 #4962 of 10413
    Soapm

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    So close,...
    I guess I'll delete it tomorrow and do a fresh install. Must be residual from the old. All I do to upgrade is put the .zip file in the folder then extract with WinRAR and let it copy over any existing files. Too bad there isn't an upgrader like on Linux (git pull).
     
  3. Mar 6, 2013 #4963 of 10413
    lrhorer

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    San...
    That sounds about right. The point is, one cannot simply replace the CPU if it fails, and hacking the Premiere is not simply a matter of replacing the PROM and the CPU, and then modifying the kernel.

    Again, correct. The bottom line is without the private key, which no one outside TiVo has, the chain of trust on the Premiere is for the moment at least inviolate.
     
  4. Mar 6, 2013 #4964 of 10413
    lrhorer

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    San...
    'Just spit-balling, but do you have the Auto Transfer server enabled? Doing so locks some of the files, including kmttg.tar kmttg.jar.
     
  5. Mar 6, 2013 #4965 of 10413
    lpwcomp

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    If you're talking about kmttg.jar, I've never had that happen to me. But I'm still running Win2K, so maybe it's different on more "modern" systems. Also, since I have some local mods to kmttg, I have to build the .jar file and copy it from my test directory to my production directory (after testing of course:)) rather than getting it from the normal download file.

    Edit: I do stop and restart the service to ensure that it is using the latest version, but I can do both after replacing the .jar file. I do not have to stop the service first.
     
  6. Mar 6, 2013 #4966 of 10413
    lpwcomp

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    And the algorithm. I also think there might be a mechanism for changing both. I know if I were designing such a system, that mechanism would be there if the hardware supported it.

    Bottomer* line, a user cannot change the s/w on a Premiere and we have no idea if TiVos s/w deployment process is capable of deploying a single updated module that is part of the base system.

    * I know. No such word. So sue me.
     
  7. Mar 6, 2013 #4967 of 10413
    CuriousMark

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    At least TiVo is now saying they will be updating Premieres soon as well as the S2 and S3 units at some unspecified time in the future. Clearly they believe that they can do it.
     
  8. Mar 6, 2013 #4968 of 10413
    lrhorer

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    San...
    Pfft! Oh, well, yes. I'm a lousy typist.

    I did. 'Puzzled me for a second. At first, I thought I had downloaded the wrong archive, since the system did not report any errors, yet the reported version was still the old one. Then I noticed the timestamp on kmttg.jar was old, so it dawned on me a file lock might be responsible. I stopped and unloaded the AT server, and the Zip utility correctly wrote over the files.

    Really and truthfully, that should work. I was surprised when it failed, but I definitely confirmed I could not write over the files when the AT server was running.
     
  9. Mar 6, 2013 #4969 of 10413
    lrhorer

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    San...
    Do you have a link to statements to that effect? I'm curious to see what they have to say.

    The issue itself is mostly moot for me, since my S3s are already fixed and I don't do much with the Premiere.
     
  10. Mar 6, 2013 #4970 of 10413
    lrhorer

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    I'm on hold with my lawyer, right now. :)
     
  11. Mar 6, 2013 #4971 of 10413
    Fofer

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    http://forums.tivo.com/pe/action/fo...#e11082026&channelID=10&portalPageId=10432560
     
  12. Mar 7, 2013 #4972 of 10413
    BrianL-WA

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    I've been a long-time Tivo owner, and have 3 Tivo HD boxes but want to start to replace them with Tivo Premiere boxes. I've done some basic hacks before to upgrade drive capacities but nothing more complex as I perceive I need to get with KMTTG (or pyTivo for that matter).

    I have 700+ recordings so initiating a transfer from either the TivoHD or pulling from the (new) Tivo Premier doing 1 show at a time with a 30-second delay between screen clicks isnt an option.

    Is there some other way to transfer a whole lot of shows tivo-to-tivo that I'm unaware of? :confused:

    Separately, I would do just about anything for a complete list of steps that I would go through to transfer all shows between these two Tivo's (ideally, not going the indirect step through a PC given the slowness of transfers for HD material from the older TivoHD boxes)...in any way possible as long as its as close to 'one button transfer' and most of the metadata is preserved (i havent been able to read in 1 spot which transfers affect which metadata fields, and which would make any substantial differences given these 700+ shows across 50+ groups).

    I'm hoping this is a well-addressed question and you can direct me to the answering post or FAQ. I've been a member of Tivo's monthly survey panel for a long time and have requested this feature--i cant rationalize why Tivo themselves wouldnt simply put in a "Transfer this Tivo's Shows to your New Tivo" feature by hooking the two boxes on the same network and elegantly deleting the original files (if that's an issue for DRM)...or minimally enabling us users to select whole groups to transfer at a time...at least then it would only take 50 minutes +/- to start the process on all 700+ shows. :)

    THANK YOU in advance--
    Brian
     
  13. Mar 7, 2013 #4973 of 10413
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    Fofer

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    That link leads to a 404 Error.
     
  15. Mar 7, 2013 #4975 of 10413
    wmcbrine

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    Thanks, I had a cut-and-paste accident composing that and I guess I didn't clean up as well as I thought. Try it now.
     
  16. Mar 7, 2013 #4976 of 10413
    moyekj

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    Once you pull all shows off your TiVo HD units as .TiVo files why bother to push them all back to Premiere units? Just leave pyTivo running and then you can pull them selectively back as needed whenever you wish. IMO using Tivos themselves as long term storage is not a reliable solution anyway if these are shows you really want to keep for a long time.
     
  17. Mar 7, 2013 #4977 of 10413
    Fofer

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    Still, it's surprising (kinda) that after all this time, TiVo hasn't offered an easy and automatic way to to transfer all of our recordings from one TiVo to a new one. That would encourage new purchases, removing one very big barrier that makes the "upgrade" uncomfortable for many. So long as they're both on the same network, you'd think they would offer an easy way to set up a data migration, moving all shows and folders from one TiVo to another... even if it takes a few days for the entire transaction to complete.

    Alas, this is TiVo. They never seem to do the really smart thing. <sigh>
     
  18. Mar 7, 2013 #4978 of 10413
    lew

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    Does tivo even have a documented way to transfer your SPs? I know there are some ways to do it.

    Alternately tivo could give people a month of free service on their old machine. That would give them time to watch some shows and transfer the rest. I don't know if tivo as a way to limit the free service to allowing MRV, that's what I'm talking about.
     
  19. Mar 7, 2013 #4979 of 10413
    Fofer

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    But even still, their current MRV workflow is a very manual and slow process. You have to queue up each and every transfer. With even 25 shows that's a pain. What if I have 250? Or more? I'd rather not upgrade if it means I have to "lose" all of those... I'm certainly not going to MRV them all (or risk losing any metadata.)

    Heck, I'd probably upgrade to a Premiere XL4 and get a Mini too, if only TiVo made it automatic and easy to grab all of my recordings and settings from the Premiere it'd be replacing. As it stands now, I'm loathe to buy any new product from TiVo, period.
     
  20. Mar 7, 2013 #4980 of 10413
    lew

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    At one time tivo had a place in their website to suggest new features. I can't find it. I guess you could use facebook or twitter to make the suggestion. Not a bad suggestion.

    A premier can has a capacity of 75 HD hours. I doubt a tivo has the capacity for 250 shows, even SD digital, unless the shows were 30 minutes (or less). I wouldn't exaggerate, even to make a point. Tivo won't support, or acknowledge, the possibility of user upgraded equipment.

    What you want could be accomplished by having a setup option to initiate a "wild card" MRV request on your new unit for all shows from your old unit.

    Again not an unreasonable request, although transferring the shows to a PC will accomplish what you want to do.
     

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