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New program for 1 step TTG downloads, decryption, encoding - kmttg

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by moyekj, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. Nov 26, 2012 #4481 of 10413
    elprice7345

    elprice7345 Member TCF Club

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    The Wish List functionality in the new release is awesome! Thanks for adding it!

    Is there any way to edit existing WLs and/or delete them?
     
  2. Nov 26, 2012 #4482 of 10413
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    No, see the Wishlists Wiki for the restrictions. (The tooltip associated with "WL" buttons also lists some limitations). I was on the fence about even releasing the existing WL capability given the restrictions, but it does provide for a much easier way of creating new WL (auto-record or not) rather than doing it on TiVo itself despite the restrictions. In fact I replied to you about the restrictions before releasing this if you scroll back a page or two in this thread.
     
  3. Nov 27, 2012 #4483 of 10413
    elprice7345

    elprice7345 Member TCF Club

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    Got it. The Wiki says:
    My bad, I misread the "editable" to have the ability to fully edit the WL and not just edit the recording options and to be applicable only to non-ARWLs. Meaning, I can edit ARWLs, but not non-ARWLs.

    Thanks for the new features and let me know if you figure something out.

    Being able to create WLs in kmttg is a great new feature.:D
     
  4. Nov 27, 2012 #4484 of 10413
    lrhorer

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    Hey moyekj,

    There seems to be a little issue with OAD retrieval. It does not always happen, but sometimes the OAD is incorrect in the kmttg log window, yet is correct on the TiVo, and in the downloaded metafile, and correct in TiVoDeskTop (the year, anyway, it doesn't report day and month). For example, last night's episode of Bones auto-recorded on three out of four of my TiVos. It was a brand new episode, with, of course, an OAD of 2012-11-26. I downloaded a copy of the metafile using kmttg, and it shows 2012-11-26. TiVoDeskTop shows a broadcast year of 2012. All three TiVos show 11/26/12. Kmttg reports an OAD of 2005-10-17. Last week's episode shows 2005-09-19, when again TDT shows 2012 and the metafile shows 2012-11-19 and the TiVos show 11/19/12.

    Meanwhile, an episode of Friends recorded on today has a reported OAD of 2012-11-26. The Metafile, meanwhile, shows an OAD of 2003-02-06, and TDT shows a year of 2003. The TiVo agrees: 2/6/03.

    I know you said here that it is often in error, but it seems to me singularly odd that it would be incorrectly reported to kmttg when at least the year is being reported correctly to TDT and when it is correct in the metafile and in the <Info> menu of the TiVo.
     
  5. Nov 27, 2012 #4485 of 10413
    moyekj

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    Do you have pre-padding or post-padding turned on for the shows that are showing wrong? Could be an issue with more than 1 originalAirDate in the XML and kmttg grabbing the wrong one which is why I ask. A dump of the extended metadata XML for a show that kmttg is showing wrong would be helpful (you can just use a web browser to get to it easily). Also if you have kmttg generate pyTivo metadata file for that show is it coming out wrong as well?
     
  6. Nov 27, 2012 #4486 of 10413
    lrhorer

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    Yes. Virtually every recording is padded by at least 1 or 2 minutes on both ends. Otherwise one misses the start and / or end of many (if not most) programs.

    Well, maybe not. I'm not finding where I can dump the XML for the show, but then I am not very familiar with HTML. I've only written a few pretty trivial web pages. The only XML reference I am finding is in the header:

    Code:
    <link rel="alternate" type="text/xml" title="RSS 2.0" href="http://192.168.1.103:80/rss/nowplaying.xml">
    I haven't figured out how to download that.


    No, as I said above, in every instance I investigated, the data in the metafile was correct.
     
  7. Nov 28, 2012 #4487 of 10413
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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  8. Nov 28, 2012 #4488 of 10413
    mattack

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    Sorry, I haven't yet tried the Stream filtering yet, but I noticed another problem.

    kmttg said that the pause point of a show (yesterday's Conan) was:
    Conan
    Recorded Mon 11/26/2012 10:59 PM on 35=TBSP, Duration=61 mins, EpisodeNumber=3335, PAUSE POINT: 48.1%
    Kate Walsh; Billy Connolly; Wilde Belle.

    But the pause point was actually about 51 minutes in (right before the musical act).
    So thus the download estimated time was way off.. But it successfully downloaded from the pause point just fine. I've seen the download time be way off before, but hadn't realized it was because of a bogus pause point calculation.
     
  9. Nov 28, 2012 #4489 of 10413
    lrhorer

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    It surely seems to have done. I tried a number of files, including the ones which I noted earlier, and they all seem to have the correct OAD. Bravo, and thanks, again!
     
  10. Nov 28, 2012 #4490 of 10413
    moyekj

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    The pause point is actually a byte offset (not a time) relative to the total bytes, both retrieved from TiVo XML listings, so kmttg simply reports pause point as 100*(offset/total). If it doesn't match expectations then issue is in the TiVo data - probably the total byte size since you say the pause point download worked as expected. Note that total size being reported is for the file as it resides on the TiVo, but TTG involves decrypt, de-mux, re-mux, encrypt and during that process the total download file size can end up quite significantly smaller than the size on the TiVo which is why download % never reaches 100. Anyway, the main point of showing PAUSE POINT is to indicate that kmttg has the data to determine what it is so you know if you do "resume downloads" it won't be from the start.
     
  11. Nov 30, 2012 #4491 of 10413
    sanjonny

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    This is a bit of a stretch as it is more of a video redo question, but involves kmttg.

    I am now encoding almost everything in mkv/h264 format due to better compression overall and which allows for chapter marks. I have been playing around with chapters in video redo mkv encoding and I get hit and miss.

    I would like there to be a chapter mark at each cut point, so essentially, if I am watching a tv show, I could skip to where the commercial break would be.

    Using the current way of doing things in kmttg, I think it is impossible to retain the chapter points/cut marks as those dont encode in mpg files I guess.

    So is there a way to retain that info and then when using either video redo or some other encoder to be able to apply that to the mkv encoder.

    For example my current process is to download, decrypt and adscan all automatically, then manual check the cutpoints with VRD, then adcut the file with kmttg/vrd, delete the uncut file and project file automatically with kmttg and then encode outside of kmttg using video.net (though I am experimenting with some cool stuff in handbrake cli that allows for some great file reduction)

    I am wondering if maybe, instead of adcutting to mpg format, if I can switch the container to mkv (but keep the mpg/ mpeg2 video encoding so the adcut is quick/no recoding at that point) so the chapter marks are retained and then encode/compress to h264/mkv.

    When I do this manually, sometimes the chapter marks are retained, other times, I guess I do something wrong and there is no chapter marks.

    Basically, is there an easy way to keep the chapter marks/cut points using kmttg and videoredo that I am just missing. I don't mind using a custom command to do it as I process several other files not from tivos using kmttg.

    One other question/thought. Anyone have input on whether the conversion/encoding on videoredo is better or the same quality as using handbrake assuming similar settings? I have done a few tests but not enough to know if maybe I should be using videoredo to encode instead.

    Thanks for anyones input in advance!
     
  12. Nov 30, 2012 #4492 of 10413
    Hercules67

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    I am getting this error message:

    Am I in too old of a version of KMTTG and the TiVO software has changed?
     
  13. Nov 30, 2012 #4493 of 10413
    Hercules67

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    I'd like to know the answer to that question also... I've used Handbrake quite a bit, and I like MKV files, but not sure who would do a better job?
     
  14. Nov 30, 2012 #4494 of 10413
    ThAbtO

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    It looks like you do not have the full knowledge of using VRD on cutting commercials, when you have to run adcut to cut them

    In VRD, get to where you want to start the cut (ie: beginning of commercials), press F3. Move to where you want to end the cut (ie: end of commercials), press F4. Note the marks on the progress bar. Press DELETE. The section between the 2 marks on the progress bar should now be red. Repeat until the rest of the program is done. Press CTRL-S to save to another file name.
    You should now have 2 files, 1 is the original, and the other is the edited version without commercials.

    You can also use the .VPrj file from KMTTG's adscan by opening it in VRD. Pressing F5 will move the cursor to the previous mark on the progress bar, and F6 for the next.
     
  15. Dec 1, 2012 #4495 of 10413
    ThAbtO

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    Does that folder exist on that drive or is that an error?
     
  16. Dec 1, 2012 #4496 of 10413
    sanjonny

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    I understand completely how to edit the files and use adcut, that really isnt my question. I have been using kmttg and vrd for a few years now, but have not really focused on the chapter part until now.

    I manually edit the open the vprj file because the automated ad detect is only so go, so I edit it, save the project file, then go back to automated processing for the adcut and delete operations (following the workflow I listed)

    Transfering chapter marks (cuts points in VRD) to some format to be able to use them in encoding mkv files is my main question, with the secondary being peoples experiences with videoredo vs handbrake vs XYZ.. for encoding.
     
  17. Dec 1, 2012 #4497 of 10413
    ThAbtO

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    Pressing A will put/remove chapter marks. The only known effect is on DVDs.
    VRD has a version that handles h.264 for an extra cost and its not widely released, it must be downloaded from their forum.
     
  18. Dec 1, 2012 #4498 of 10413
    sanjonny

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    Not to be a pain or an ungrateful lought, but i know that. I have the 264 version. Could you please read my initial question again and if you know the answers to the concerns, let me know, otherwise, you are not really helping me.

    I have been able to encode mpg files cut to mkv/h264 with chapter marks at cut points, but it has been hit and miss. Hopefully someone on the board has specific experience with this and can help answer my questions regarding what i originally stated and also the comparison if anyone has done it of the h264 encoding of vrd vs say handbrake or some other software.

    It feels like you just skimmed my question and threw out something each time, or i horribly wrote my questions because your responses seem off the mark. Perhaps i did horribly write them, in which case i can provide more description, but i think hercules understood exactly what i was/am looking for.

    If i find the answer myself, i usually post it to help others, but knowing there are true experts on here, i figured somebody does what i am trying to do every day and could help walk me through it or help me see what i am missing.
     
  19. Dec 1, 2012 #4499 of 10413
    lrhorer

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    Huh? h.264 support is in the mainstream release.
     
  20. Dec 1, 2012 #4500 of 10413
    lrhorer

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    Are you getting that error with every file, or just that file? If the latter, my first guess would be the quote marks might be giving you problems.

    No, why would you think that?
     

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