Fine, but what moyekj said and what you continue to say are completely different. Yeah, I got that. That's my point. Kmttg has never shown the OAD in the list of shows from the TiVos, to my knowledge. I wish it did, and indeed I requested that very feature 3 months ago in this post. See the subsequent conversations. I must be missing something, here. First of all, when you say "pull" I presume you mean pull from the PC to the TiVo (GoBack) not from the TiVo to the PC (TTG, or in context kmttg). To my knowledge no contents of any default.txt file has anything to do with the kmttg list of shows. The date shown by kmttg, both in the TiVo NPL window and the log file window is and always has been the date the show was recorded, according to the TiVo's response to the XML request from kmttg. Hmm. Maybe I am getting a glimmer of what you are saying. Are you saying the date reported by the TiVo only for shows transferred back to the Tivo from the PC are now being reported differently? If so, then moyekj is most certainly correct that this is a pyTivo / TiVo issue, since kmttg only reports what the TiVo tells it. OTOH, it also doesn't help me, at all, since I don't care about the OAD of transferred material, but do often care about the OAD of material not yet transferred from the TiVo to the PC.