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New program for 1 step TTG downloads, decryption, encoding - kmttg

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by moyekj, Mar 15, 2008.

  1. Dec 30, 2011 #3701 of 10411
    greggt007

    greggt007 New Member

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    i recently got a wdtv live plus, which supposedly can play any file you throw at it. i am using kmttg to download, decode and qs fix the tivo file to mpeg and putting them on my nas. now when i play the mpg files i get no sound at all. i tried using hdmi audio, analog, optical out on the wdtv but nothing for the mpgs, i get audio from other mp4 files on my nas.

    oh, and i dont want to have to encode the mpgs to some other format, as, 1) the pc i am using is basically a netbook and it takes forever to encode, 2) the wdtv should play everything, 3)that usually introduces audio/video sync issues.

    so far only thing i am seeing is maybe an ac3 issue?

    please help. dont know what is going on!
     
  2. Dec 30, 2011 #3702 of 10411
    krar4

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    Kevin - I like to have more volume available to me in case I'm on a loud plane, so I increased the volume of the normal ff_ipad profile by adding " -vol 512" right before "OUTPUT".

    If that is still insufficient volume for me, do I just increase the number?

    Thanks for your assistance!

    Rick
     
  3. Dec 30, 2011 #3703 of 10411
    ThAbtO

    ThAbtO TiVoholic by the bay

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    Increasing the -Vol would only make the sound more 'tinny'.
     
  4. Dec 30, 2011 #3704 of 10411
    krar4

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    Then how do I increase the volume during the encoding process?

    Thanks,
    Rick
     
  5. Dec 30, 2011 #3705 of 10411
    wmcbrine

    wmcbrine Ziphead

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    This may or may not be relevant, but -- recently, I tried playing some TiVo-sourced MPEG PS files with VLC, and got no sound. I was able to select the second soundtrack from the menus, and it worked. Of course, according to ffmpeg (and the TiVo), there was only one soundtrack in these files. :confused: Anyway, I tried remuxing these files to transport streams (ffmpeg -i foo.mpg -vcodec copy -acodec copy foo.ts), and after that they worked (and only appeared to have one soundtrack in VLC's menus).

    I don't know that this only would've worked with transport streams, but I chose that format for other reasons.
     
  6. Dec 30, 2011 #3706 of 10411
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    I used to use -vol 768 for my portable media player (for use at gym) and that worked OK. It can distort audio a little bit but wasn't too bad.
     
  7. Dec 30, 2011 #3707 of 10411
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    My recommendation always is to install mediainfo to examine video files to see what video and audio streams are available. Then once you determine there are proper streams there then it's up to the player to handle them properly. VLC plays pretty much anything so that's also a good tool to have available for checking playback.
     
  8. Dec 30, 2011 #3708 of 10411
    sanjonny

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    I bought the wdtv whatever whatever and hated it. Your problem is something along the lines of the wdtv unit will (don't count on this being right but something along these lines) only play mpgs with AAC audio but not AC3 or visa versa or something like that. It drove me crazy because I had copied several different shows but only got audio for the ones that were crappy quality because of the quality of the style of recordings. I think you can look up the specs and see what it is, but frankly, I returned the wd unit because it should be able to play anything and most of what I threw at it would not play correctly.

    I ended up buying a brite view, which basically plays almost anything, including if it is misidentified as something else, say a mkv file that is in an avi container or something along those lines. I know some people love their wdtv, but I really thought it was overpriced and silly that it couldn't play most anything. So do a bit more research on the wdtv site and find out what audio it supports.

    Then if you are hell bent on keeping the thing, you can re-encode the audio only of the video files say convert ac3 to aac or mp3 or whatever, even on a netbook, that goes fast, and you will be able to play it. Or buy a better player that plays anything and never have to encode unless you want to.
     
  9. Dec 30, 2011 #3709 of 10411
    sanjonny

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    I know that using virtualdub or virtualdubmod, it is very easy to increase the volume of almost any file without major distortion (up to a point). I am not sure about the built in profiles of ffmpeg as those work a bit differently.

    In virtual dub, you open the file, set video to basically copy and then go to audio and increase volume. Cant remember the exact commands right now, but it is intuitive and easy and takes only a few seconds.
     
  10. Jan 1, 2012 #3710 of 10411
    pjaromin

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    I've been trying to find an easy, automated way to transfer my TiVo recordings to my Media Center PCs and after playing with a few options, it appears that the easiest, fastest, and most reliable method is to use KMTTG with VideoReDo to download and encode to WTV files.

    However, I've run into a snag -- the resulting WTV files contain no metadata, which makes it unpleasant and difficult to use under media center.

    Following transfer from TiVo using either KMTTG or TiVo Desktop, I'm not seeing any metadata using Windows properties page (right-click). However, for files that were previously transferred but no longer on the TiVo, the metadata task is able to extract metatadata. In the past I seem to recall seeing the metadata under the file properties, so I'm a bit confused here.

    Is there something key I'm missing? Does anyone use KMTTG + VRD for TiVo -> WTV?

    Thanks!
     
  11. Jan 1, 2012 #3711 of 10411
    mrbuddd

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    The custom command task seems to be after the push task. The push task should be the absolute last task always. Is there a way to fix this?
     
  12. Jan 1, 2012 #3712 of 10411
    sanjonny

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    I think wtv plays mpg and xvid(avi with a codec) natively so why convert at all? Maybe i am wrong, but i helped someone set up theirs awhile ago and there were helpers to read reformatted tivo metadata files. I will see if they are still using that setup and report back if i hear anything.
     
  13. Jan 1, 2012 #3713 of 10411
    pjaromin

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    Yes, Windows Media Center will natively play those formats, however it will not display them in the "Recorded TV" section unless they're WTV files. I'm basically using the TiVo for the recommendations at this point -- all of our scheduled shows are recorded on 8 tuners in two different media centers and feed into a windows home server. So I'm putting a "TiVo Suggestions" folder under my Recorded TV path and dumping the TiVo recording there with another batch process that will prune aged files after some interval (haven't decided yet).

    I was using VRD with VAP, but 80% of the files ended up "stalled" for some reason and many of the programs I'm recording aren't in TVDB.com, so they weren't getting the meta from there.

    I'm a Java coder but the stuff I've used for metadata is for JPG/MPG EXIF information and isn't compatible. Otherwise I'd just write something to pop the information from the pytivo meta files into the WTV files and run it as the custom command. I've tried pytivometapopper from the VAP forum, but that doesn't appear to work -- getting errors with no useful information. I've got an open question there but haven't gotten back to that yet as I'm thinking it shouldn't actually be necessary.

    Anything you can remember/find out would be greatly appreciated! Thanks!
     
  14. Jan 2, 2012 #3714 of 10411
    dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Since you're dropping negative comments about VAP in this forum, I need to point out that I have responded to your VAP problems with some troubleshooting suggestions in the VRD forums VAP sub-forum, to which you have not responded. As I pointed out there, VAP reads metadata directly from .tivo input files so getting metadata from theTVDB.com is not necessary. If this isn't working there is something wrong with your setup.

    You said (in the VRD forum) that your platform is a "virtual Vista x32 PC (with the tv pack and playready pc ". I confess I don't know what that is, but "virtual" suggests you're running a virtual machine and it is not unusual for VM's to have problems like this.

    I don't want to hijack this thread for VAP problems, so let's please continue any discussion regarding VAP issues in the VRD VAP sub-forum.
     
  15. Jan 2, 2012 #3715 of 10411
    pjaromin

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    My intention of the comment was not to slam VAP, merely to provide additional background. The stalling issue is simply something I've experienced and that particular problem wasn't actually resolved through the VAP forum. That's why I started looking at kmttg + VRD instead.

    And while I did mention VAP in a single sentence (as I assume folks here are familiar with it), my OP was entirely about kmttg with VRD. I believe this is the appropriate forum for that. I can certainly refrain from even passing mention of VAP in subsequent posts here.

    As for VMs, the only reason I'm now using a virtual machine is because I can no longer run a trial of VRD on my physical hardware -- the trial key expired before I could get back to this and it won't allow me to run a new trial on the same system. I'm not going to spend $100 on VRD unless/until I can verify this will work, so I'm doing whatever I can to get a trial working to make this happen. I build and administer virtual machines in a very large production hosting environment, Linux and Windows, without any odd issues. I'm not sure why you'd say it's not unusual to have problems like this. That certainly hasn't been my experience.

    I'm posting to both because forums because I'm agnostic as to whether to use kmttg alone (with VRD) or kmttg+VAP. I'll use whichever I can get to work. And while it would be great if this could be resolved by a simple setting or tweak to VRD/VAP, if I can make it work faster by writing a post-process command through kmttg to do this, I'm game as well.

    BTW, I replied a bit ago to the VAP post with results of your suggestions.

    Thanks!
     
  16. Jan 3, 2012 #3716 of 10411
    mattack

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    It doesn't look like I posted this recently.. I hope I didn't mention it before.

    Another bug with combined download/decrypt (which I FAR prefer) - it doesn't properly wait between the current task and the next one, so it ALWAYS gets an error on the next download.. It'll finish downloading one video, get the next metadata, then always get an error on the next video download.
     
  17. Jan 4, 2012 #3717 of 10411
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    In next release metadata tasks now get a delay as well (currently consecutive download jobs without metadata do get a delay but not when metadata is enabled).
     
  18. Jan 4, 2012 #3718 of 10411
    Hercules67

    Hercules67 TiVo addict

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    The biggest problem I have had in this scenario is as follows (in regards to things getting hang, where sometimes I have to MANUALLY cancel a task):

    DOWNLOAD --> DECRYPT --> QSFix --> ADSCAN

    Either the QSFix or the ADSCAN job hangs (90% to 10% adscan vs. qsfix) and I have to cancel VideoRedo from task manger after stopping it manually in KMTTG. I still have not figured why it does this, and I never get an error.

    Any ideas?
     
  19. Jan 6, 2012 #3719 of 10411
    moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    v0p8n version just released. Principal changes/fixes for this release:
    * When ProjectX enabled don't skip "QS Fix" task as was case in previous release when "Ad Cut" is also enabled since "Ad Detect" can benefit from "QS Fix"
    * Apply download start delay for all download tasks, including metadata tasks, in order to avoid failures for consecutive download tasks
    See release_notes Wiki page for full details of changes/fixes.
     
  20. Jan 7, 2012 #3720 of 10411
    avpman2

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    How do I get kttmg to work on an Android tablet? Java is loaded somewhere on the tablet because I can access webpages I built with heave javascript code. However, when I try to open the kktmg.jar file on the Android tablet with the Astro file explorer it wants to extract the files from the jar. If I use the stock Android file browser I get the message "no application can perform this action." This seems like a file association problem. But I can't change the file association for .jar or .js because kttmg is not installed as an Android app. I'm just running if from the sdcard. I DID extract all the files from the zip file so I'm sure I'm not trying to run kttmg from the zip archive. I've successfully installed kttmg on my laptop and it works fine. But I really need it to work on the tablet.

    Please Help!
    Thanks...
     

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