Sorry, I really don't want to inject a shoot-off comparison of VAP and kmttg onto this kmttg thread, but you make unclear statements about VAP that I feel need to be clarified in the interest of fairness. What "bunch of extra steps" are you referring to? Of course VAP does not pull videos from TiVo. You need to use TiVoPlaylist or Desktop to do that. But what other steps comprise a "bunch" of steps?