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New Netflix App

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by rainwater, Oct 22, 2013.

  1. Jan 8, 2014 #261 of 304
    CloudAtlas

    CloudAtlas New Member

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    The only timing is that it's the first full week back since the holidays when most staff took off. What company is going to push out software around the holidays? The Premiere boxes got this release before the holidays.

    What is the the version of the Netflix w/ Profiles?
     
  2. Jan 8, 2014 #262 of 304
    mikeyts

    mikeyts Stream Warrior

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    When you go to the player's menu and select the cog ("Version account information or sign out") you can look at Device Information, which gets you these version numbers:
    I just happened to have recorded those numbers for the player on my Roamio Basic on the 23rd of last month (a cell phone pic); the only thing which has changed is that "UI Build" is now "release-45-p". I'd check the player on my Premiere, but it's not currently hooked up; my guess is that it's the same and has been at that UI release since it became available on Premiere.

    The beauty of their architecture is that, being Javascript based, they can make patches to the UI code whenever you start the player without any device firmware update required. They've added very significant new features to the old HTML5/Webkit player that way, including the Netflix Kids UI and Profiles. Just run the player and new stuff is suddenly there.

    EDIT: Strange thing is that I have a picture of that information for my Premiere from the 23rd which is identical (release-42-p) but I didn't get the new UI on Premiere until the 31st (you could get the information on the old player with UP UP DOWN DOWN LEFT RIGHT LEFT RIGHT UP UP UP UP, an homage to a famous old Konami video game cheat code). I have an image of that information from the old "Flash" player from 8/3 and the format of the screen and the information on it was entirely different.

    On 10/28 my Roamio was running "release-589-p" (everything else the same except for "mdxjs" was "2.0.6-r47"); on 11/18 it was running "release-20-p" (everything else the same as now).

    EDIT EDIT: I recall that I was running the new Netflix player on my Premiere before I "officially" got it on the 31st by kicking it off using ktmmg. That would explain the version information that I got on the Premiere on 12/23.
     
  3. Jan 8, 2014 #263 of 304
    AdamNJ

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    There are a lot of numbers I don't feel like typing under netflix version, but software version says: 20.3.8-usa-6-840/2013.2.1

    Ui build:release-45-p
     
  4. Jan 9, 2014 #264 of 304
    the block

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    Profiles are working on my Roamio & Mini as of last night as well. Finally.
     
  5. Jan 9, 2014 #265 of 304
    anthonymoody

    anthonymoody New Member

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    Thank god for context.
     
  6. Jan 9, 2014 #266 of 304
    steinbch

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    Happy that profiles are working, but is anyone having trouble getting HD to stream? I'm getting the highest bit rate using my appleTV, but the Roamio won't budge past 480p bitrates.
     
  7. Jan 9, 2014 #267 of 304
    bbrown9

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    How are you determining what your bitrates are?
     
  8. Jan 9, 2014 #268 of 304
    ustavio

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    Thanks for pointing this out. I make changes in the wording of my post to insure that context was no longer necessary to fully comprehend content.
     
  9. Jan 9, 2014 #269 of 304
    ustavio

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    Netflix has a odd though entertaining short (11 minute) test video called "Example Short 23.976" which will provide information on SD (480p) or HD (1920 x1080p) and bitrates3.8. Regular HD comes in at @ 3.8 mbps and SuperHD is @ 5.7. I think it's the difference between 60 fps and 24 fps. I'm not real sure. Someone with more background could probably expand on this. It will also test audio with various live sounds although just annoying tones if you have Dolby enabled.

    With the new UI, I have been seeing fairly consistent 1080p at 3.8ish but every now and then SuperHD makes a visit. I can get most of the information if I display information using my Blu-ray but not as much if I hit info on the Roamio.
     
  10. Jan 9, 2014 #270 of 304
    steinbch

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    This is how I'm doing it. Strange, but also seeing the low bitrates from my TV (Panasonic VT60). The only device able to get HD is the AppleTV. All devices are hard wired except for the TV. All devices were getting HD signals until at least mid December. Time of day doesn't seem to have an impact either.
     
  11. mikeyts

    mikeyts Stream Warrior

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    Just a nit--720p is also HD, available on Netflix at 2350- and 3000 Kbps. It is the resolution of ABC HD, Fox HD and most HD cable channels and many if not most HD streaming services and was the only HD resolution available on Netflix until a few years ago.
     
  12. rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    True. Although with Netflix it is not really the resolution that matters. The higher the bitrate, the better quality the encode is. So while 720p is fine for HD channels, the encodes on Netflix that are 720p are no where near as good as the "Super HD" ones. It that has little to do with the resolution.
     
  13. ustavio

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    Sigh. :( Had another reboot just after midnight. Everything seemed to be working just fine with the "return of the profiles" (hmmm...sounds like the name of a reunion tour for an 80s band). No change in Netflix UI. No overt changes. No network loss or bizarre fluctuations on my end that I could detect. Nothing. Zip. Nada. Just another out of the blue "Hey, think I'll reboot just for the heck of it because I can" kind of of reboot. Think the longest I've gone without a reboot at any time since buying the Roamio is 12 days. This time I squeezed only 8 days out of it. Also, this time it took 7-8 minutes to reboot. Seemed a bit longer than usual.

    If only a certain percentage of people on this forum experience reboots (and assuming they are reported here), one can only wonder how many folks who aren't even aware of the forum experience them. There must be some common denominators for those who do and those who don't.
     
  14. JC Fedorczyk

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    Where the heck is Tivo Margaret. She had mentioned something last year about an upcoming release that was supposed to fix this and now nothing.
     
  15. HarperVision

    HarperVision TiVo's Italian Cuz!

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    She's probably just getting back and settled in from CES I would think.
     
  16. hefe

    hefe Rebus Philbin

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    I'm not having reboots, but I've started getting Netflix not connecting errors.
     
  17. ncfoster

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    Sorry if I am going over old territory, but my two irritations with the current Netflix app on my Roamio Pro are:

    1) Video almost always starts at a low quality. This is similar to what I experienced on my Premiere, which I almost never would use for Netflix. On my PS3, things almost always start at a high quality. I don't always check to see exactly what the quality is, but it is at least 720p. The upshot is that when I am watching a show when a show doesn't open with credits, etc., I get very irritated with the quality. This persists when I am watching a series of episodes. Each subsequent episode goes back to the low streaming quality before it ramps up to HD or "SuperHD" levels.

    I suspect that this is unavoidable without changes by Tivo/Netflix on the app, but I'd love to be wrong.

    2. When I try to track what sorts of quality are coming in, I press the info button to get the quality information in the corner. If I press it again to make that information go away, part of the overlay remains, and the part that disappears is fully transparent. This is quite unpleasant, and I haven't found a way past this glitch, other than to get out of the show, and get back into it. Am I missing something? Is everyone seeing this behavior?

    Optimistic that the second problem will be an easy bug fix. Pessimistic that the slow quality throttling is by-design, and will drive me back to my PS3 for any "critical viewing". At least the kids don't seem to care for their stuff.
     
  18. kbmb

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    After you press the info button to remove the info, press the down arrow to bring up the play bar, then press the up arrow to hide the play bar.

    That should remove all bit rate info from the screen.

    -Kevin
     
  19. mikeyts

    mikeyts Stream Warrior

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    The stream info bobble isn't a bug, since it's an undocumented debugging tool :). There've been problems with it before, some of which took months for them to get around to repairing. As long as it doesn't bother the developers they've got better things to do.

    Be happy that it's available at all; most devices don't have it.
     
  20. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    In the Netflix site you can set your quality, the default is auto, that why you may have your problem, try setting the quality to the highest and that may solve your problem as I never have your problem of starting at low quality, my Netflix comes out at 1080p /24 all the time using my Roamio plus and a MoCA interface.
     

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