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New Netflix App

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by rainwater, Oct 22, 2013.

  1. Oct 22, 2013 #1 of 304
    rainwater

    rainwater Active Member

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    It looks like Netflix finally rolled out profiles support to the Roamio app. We can finally make use of profiles in our house!

    I also saw a huge banner ad for Hemlock Grove at the top. I've never seen such an ad in Netflix before but I didn't mind it so much (although it did take up half of the screen) since you can just scroll down to your list.
     
  2. Oct 22, 2013 #2 of 304
    monkeydust

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    Wow, right you are!
     
  3. Oct 22, 2013 #3 of 304
    mrizzo80

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    Must be a staggered rollout. I don't see anything different at the moment.
     
  4. Oct 23, 2013 #4 of 304
    Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I see profiles on mine. Maybe you just need to force a call?
     
  5. Oct 23, 2013 #5 of 304
    rainwater

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    So far it seems they only show the ad the first time you login with a profile. I haven't seen the ad since.
     
  6. Oct 23, 2013 #6 of 304
    Dan203

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    I didn't see the ad on mine. Although I already watched the first episode of Hemlock Grove, it was horrible so I never watched the rest.
     
  7. Oct 23, 2013 #7 of 304
    rainwater

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    I switched to a different profile and it showed Orange is the New Black across the entire top and I've already watched that series (although on a different profile). I'm not sure what triggers the ad though.
     
  8. Oct 23, 2013 #8 of 304
    anthonymoody

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    Excellent. Have it here on my Plus finally. Thanks for the heads up! My family uses profiles extensively so this is great!
     
  9. Oct 27, 2013 #9 of 304
    mikeyts

    mikeyts Stream Warrior

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    TiVo Roamio now gets my vote for the best Netflix player of several devices I have with Netflix players attached to TVs (PS3, Roku 3, Roku 2 XS, TiVo Premiere, TiVo Series3, Xbox 360, WD TV Live, 2 Panasonic and one Sony BDP and the various ways of playing Netflix on this PC). The PS3 previously held that title and my old TiVo Premiere featured one of the worst.

    Navigation of the UI is fairly snappy; it starts up in 8 seconds and starts streams in about 3 seconds, immediately jumping to the highest available bit rate video encode and usually sticking there. It features a version of the stream info overlay that I really like (toggled on and off with INFO) which even has an indication of bit rate so you can tell which "720 HD" or "1080 Super HD" encode you're looking at.

    TiVos can also output Netflix at 1080p24, a fairly rare capability.

    It replaces my Roku 3 as my Netflix viewing platform of choice.
     
  10. Oct 27, 2013 #10 of 304
    aaronwt

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    Yes, the same here. My Roamio Pro and my two TiVo Minis are my main Netflix players now. Although I will still use my Roku2 and Roku3 boxes on occasion. And of course for Netflix 3D content I still need to use my Sony 3D BD players. But overall the new Netflix players in the Romaio and Minis are superb.
     
  11. Oct 27, 2013 #11 of 304
    ustavio

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    As of today you have profiles up and running? Curious. I and others had them briefly and lost them. Also (still) experiencing reboots when using Netflix. Also curious (when it is working properly) pressing info does not display the bit rate, resolution or PAR items you shared in your photo.

    I have a Pro with all the updates, MoCA connection, Fios 35/35 Mbps hooked to a Sony Bravia via HDMI and have had nothing but issues lately. I don't have them via BluRay but it is slower (even wired) and less snappy. However, no issues.

    I checked out the Netflix versions:
    Sony is an older SDK 3.1.4 release 1106457 (Sept 11 2013)
    UI Build - release 38p
    Tivo is SDK 4.0.2 release 1933285/nrdjs
    UI Build - release 569p

    There are other different items listed in both but seem to primarily relate to Sony and/or Tivo.

    Other than the recurring Netflix reboot and UI issues (and now lack of bit rate, resolution and PAR) everything else works great. A recent odd channel line up conflict may be Fios and Tribune not being on the same page. However, it is curious that it would happen at the same time.

    Tivo CR draws a blank. Have yet to try Netflix. Just trying to sleuth this out. Any thoughts? How does one get in contact with Tivo Margaret?
     
  12. Oct 27, 2013 #12 of 304
    mikeyts

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    The text it should display is similar to the smaller text in the corner of that example. It's a snap of "Example Short 23.976", a test clip with bit rate/resolution information burned into each of its constituent video encodes, useful as a sanity test of what encode you're getting and how stably (huh--that's actually a word :D) on devices whose Netflix players don't have that stream info overlay. I just took a bad picture of what it looks like on TiVo with my phone (from Black Hawk Down):

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    The text is out of focus but you can make out the format of the info. The other devices I have with this display have it jammed up in the upper left corner; TiVo's is further down the screen.

    I see that Profiles (and that banner content ad) has disappeared for the moment. I guess that Netflix is farting around with it; maybe they think that it's responsible for the crashes and have backed out of that feature temporarily. TiVo CS is not going to be able to help. The entire UI is running in HTML5 code using the Webkit rendering engine (I've been told that TiVo's platform for running it is a port of Opera); Netflix downloads it dynamically (it starts up so fast on TiVo--8 seconds as opposed to 30 on the PS3 and over a minute on one of my BDPs--that they're probably caching most of it, checking the versions and replacing pieces when necessary). They change it as casually as they change their web pages and TiVo has as much control over it as the web browser maintainers have over those web pages, which is to say, none.
     
  13. Oct 27, 2013 #13 of 304
    bbrown9

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    I was getting crashes before the profiles showed up and had another one last night after the profiles went away.
     
  14. Oct 27, 2013 #14 of 304
    mikeyts

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    If they're attempting to diagnose the crashes they may want to simplify what they're working with as much as possible.
     
  15. Oct 28, 2013 #15 of 304
    ustavio

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    Thanks fellow Tivoids. I down loaded the "Example Short..." and get the same SuperHD and bit rate (5800 kbps)/resolution readings(1920x1080p) PAR 1:1 with my Tivo Pro. Not so much with the BluRay (by connecting an ethernet cord from the Tivo to the BluRay). BluRay wireless and wired both give a smaller bit rate. Although it is "newish" it's still not a gigabyte processor. No SuperHD came up. Perhaps futzing about with the network/system settings will make a difference. It's an acceptable alternative when in need of a Netflix fix (say that 3 times in a row) but not smokin' hot like the Tivo version (when it works right). It DOES give me profiles and doesn't reboot but once one gets used to the Porsche, it's hard to go back to the Fiat ;).

    Two questions: 1. How does one know when it's pumpin' at 1080p/24 (I have both it and 1080p ticked in Tivo settings. 2. How does one get in contact with Tivo Margaret? (I'm new in the neighborhood).

    Again many thanks for the feedback.
     
  16. Oct 28, 2013 #16 of 304
    markp99

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    My TiVo shows a quick pop-up in the corner when the source changes - shows "1080p" when SuperHD is coming-in.
     
  17. Oct 28, 2013 #17 of 304
    aaronwt

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    Just hit the info button and it will show the bitrate and resolution of the current streaming title.
     
  18. Oct 28, 2013 #18 of 304
    jscozz

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    I don't see profiles yet... is there password support also, or just unsecured selecting of a profile? I assume the later, since I see no way on the Netflix web site to set a password for a profile.
     
  19. Oct 28, 2013 #19 of 304
    Dan203

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    Mine went away after a couple days. They must have released the app prematurely and revoked it.
     
  20. Oct 28, 2013 #20 of 304
    mrizzo80

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    So is the profile-enabled Netflix app HTML5? I thought we determined the Netflix app that shipped with the Roamio in August was still Flash-based.
     

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