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New Netflix app not streaming consistently

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by JfNebraska, May 11, 2012.

  1. JfNebraska

    JfNebraska HD Initiate

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    Thanks for the quick reply. Is there a way to tell which titles are which?
     
  2. rainwater

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    I think if you have 1080p disabled, but 1080i enabled, it will play the 1080p streams at 1080i. I think the number of 1080p videos is still pretty small on Netflix.
     
  3. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Yes that is correct as mikeyts confirmed. When I had the titles I playing back at 1080i I had 1080p24 checked as a resolution. And had no issue streaming at 1080p24 from some other titles. One of the titles that were playing back at 1080i was called Alien vs. Ninja(or something like that)

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  4. mikeyts

    mikeyts Stream Warrior

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    AFAICT, pretty nearly every HD Netflix title has a 1080p24 encode and that's been true since they introduced 1080p24 in October of 2010. They created a whole new set of AVC encodings designed for Adaptive Bit-rate Streaming which could only be played by the PS3 for several months and only on the PS3 and Roku 2 XS & XD for a long time after that.

    I have come upon a few that were 720p-only, including the film Scary Movie and a few seasons of some anime series, other seasons of which have 1080p encodes (not that it makes a whole lot of difference with flat shaded animation). The excellent Swedish "alternative" vampire flick, Let the Right One In had a 1080p encoding, but the burned-in English subs were screwed up in only the 1080p encoding so they eventually "fixed" the title by removing that encode :rolleyes:. For a long time it served as a test of whether someone was getting 1080p from Netflix, though it made the film unwatchable for non-Swedish speakers with sufficient bandwidth to get 1080p.

    My 5 y/o Mits LCD panel can't accept p24 (if I leave it checked it gets turned into p60, presumably by my AVR). With only 1080i enabled TiVo converts it into that, which is pretty damn good.
     
  5. aaronwt

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    Alot of the HD content I've watched on Netflix was only 720P this year. But I've also watched over a couple hundred titles/episodes of Anime this year from Netflix(with over 150:eek: just in march:eek:). And alot of the HD anime(that I've looked at) seems to have 720P as the highest streaming resolution.
     
  6. mikeyts

    mikeyts Stream Warrior

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    Hmmm. Maybe they're intentionally not bothering to create 1080p encodings of anime. Maybe a lot of the sources for that with which they're provided is 720p digital. Who knows.

    I just tried enabling 1080i+1080p24 on my Premiere. It does take a two or three seconds to switch. It'd be nice if TiVo had a 1080p60 output that it could scale all of the other formats into. All of my other Netflix playing devices, even the ones which can't play the 1080p encodes like the Xbox, output 1080p60 which is the native framerate of my old Mits panel.
     
  7. mikeyts

    mikeyts Stream Warrior

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    A unique thing about the TiVo Netflix player that I forgot to mention is that even if its maximum output resolution is set to 720p, it will access and play the 1080p24 encode anyway if there's enough available bandwidth on your connection to local Netflix servers and those servers are responsive enough, scaling it down to 720p60, a bit of a waste of bandwidth in the end (though it's possible that the downscaled 1080p is higher PQ than the better of the 720p encodes).

    All the other Netflix players I have (Roku 2, PS3, Xbox, Panasonic and Sony BD players) will top out with the 720p24 encodes if you set their maximum resolution to 1280x720 (there are 2 for each title, at 2350- and 3600 Kbps).
     
  8. JfNebraska

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    As far as I can tell, Thor (just added to instant queue) is not available at 1080p/24. Couldn't get it to output that way on either my TiVo or my PS3.
     
  9. mikeyts

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    Yes, that would seem to be true; Thor appears to be 720p only with no 5.1 sound. It is a relatively recent release title. Since dropping Starz Play, Netflix has been getting such titles from the content IP holders and I'm guess that this one had some limitations on how they could present it. Hopefully it's not a sign of things to come.

    EDIT: I just examined a few other relatively-recent-big-theatrical-release films on Netflix: Iron Man 2, Kick-Ass and Rango are all 720p-only and without digital 5.1 sound. Pro Logic II matrix encoding on the stereo tracks generally survive Netflix encoding so you'll get some surround sound (the little bit of Rango I listened to sounded quite good).

    Thor and Iron Man 2 are both Marvel Comics Studio releases, so maybe those limitations are part of Netflix's deal with them. I suppose that these limitations are better than what we got from Starz Play. Some other relatively-recent-big-theatrical-release films like Limitless have been in 1080p w/DD+ sound so we can hope that not many content providers will imposed such limitations.
     

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