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Networked XL4 stream mkvs (w/no transcoding)?...

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by riz, May 13, 2013.

  1. riz

    riz New Member

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    Hi all, new XL4 coming from a late 2008 TivoHD run. I never really bothered with PC to TivoHD connectivity (maybe it couldn't even really do it) but let me tell you what I am interested in, and you guys please tell me the easiest/best way to accomplish it.

    I have a collection of mkv movies and simply don't understand the easiest way to use my networked TivoXL4 instead of my archaic current system which involves a cheapo viewsonic media player and a thumbdrive.

    If possible, I do not want to transcode, re-encode, change this files, just want to view them via my network. pyTiVo, Tivo Desktop plus, streaming baby.. hmmm, Do they transcode? Do they need to transfer first? Anyway to just see them on my network drive and play them in original format?

    Thanks,
    riz
     
  2. innocentfreak

    innocentfreak Active Member

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    PyTiVo will only transcode if needed. It is definitely my preferred method.
     
  3. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Tivos can't decode MKV container so if nothing else they will need to be re-muxed to a TiVo compatible container (transport stream or mp4). pyTivo with special ts=on setting (search pyTivo thread to understand what that means) is your best bet for doing minimum necessary to play those videos on a TiVo.
     
  4. riz

    riz New Member

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    What about Dekstop plus, as it states it does support mkv (oooops no it doesn't lol oh wait it does (added))...

    Upgrade the free version of TiVo Desktop software for the PC and get these additional features:

    Convert shows for playback on your iPod, iPhone, iPad, Blackberry, PSP or other compatible device
    Transfer compatible web videos to your TiVo box for viewing on your TV


    Supported video formats include:

    Windows Media Video (.wmv)
    QuickTime Movie (.mov)
    MPEG-4/H.264 (.mp4, .m4v, .mp4v)
    MPEG-2 (.mpg, .mpeg, .mpe, .mp2, .mp2v, .mpv2)
    DivX and Xvid (.avi, .divx)*

    If you have downloaded videos from the Internet in any of the following formats, you can use TiVo Desktop Plus software for the PC to transfer them to your network-connected TiVo® box to view them on your TV:

    Windows Media Video (.wmv)
    QuickTime Movie (.mov)
    MPEG-4/H.264 (.mp4, .m4v, .mp4v)
    MPEG-2 (.mpg, .mpeg, .mpe, .mp2, .mp2v, .mpv2)
    DivX or Xvid (.avi, .divx, encoded with the DivX codec, version 4 or higher, or with the Xvid codec. No other video formats are supported within .AVI files.)
    Desktop can also recognize additional types of video, such as .mkv, based on other software installed on your system.
     
  5. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    pyTivo is free and MUCH better.
     
  6. riz

    riz New Member

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    I just don't have the patience today for pyTiVo installation which is far from straight forward. So I did a couple google searches on desktop plus and mkv and since it has a 30 day money back guarantee I bought it.

    Mkv's work! I did have to clear the cache within TiVo D+ but my server was immediately viewable and so were the mkv's.

    I'll certainly install pyTiVo later and have some comparisons but TiVoD+ for $15 can play mkvs and it was done in a matter of seconds :)

    Thanks for the help guys,
    riz
     
  7. riz

    riz New Member

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    Well I am not in love with the transfer speed thus far. I do have a gigabit network but even the XL4 is not gigabit capable. I press play on a 2hour movie (mkv) and it transfers pretty slow. It does look like the quality is intact, no transcoding is degrading the quality (that I can tell thus far) Tomorrow I will tackle pyTiVo to compare.

    edit/add: wow, it is unbearably slow, is that normal? I was hoping for a more press play and it downloads slightly faster than playing. It doesn't, does pyTiVo?
     
  8. sh_laura

    sh_laura New Member

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    Audials is the best ways how to convert Music, Videos and Movies.The Universal Converter for any case and every device Audials is the solution you need.
    I like it and it is great.
     
  9. gonzotek

    gonzotek tivo_xml developer

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    It's slow because it is transcoding. Check the file size on the finished transfer on the TiVo, and compare it to the mkv. You may not notice a quality difference on the transcode, which is good, but it is still happening. For transfer speed, that's bad.

    pyTiVo will only transcode when the source file is not compatible with TiVo. If the container is not compatible, but the codecs inside are compatible, pyTiVo will remux the codecs (which is faster than transcoding). If you use the 'ts=on' setting as advised above, and the video codec within the mkv matches what the TiVo is capable of playing, the source video will be transferred without transcoding, and at a much faster speed than TiVo Desktop.
     

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