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Netflix ditches Webkit/HTML5. Goes native in new UI

Discussion in 'TiVo Roamio DVRs' started by CloudAtlas, Nov 19, 2013.

  1. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    I use Netflix almost every day on my Roamio Pro and no reboots for me thus far. Could just be luck or solid, glitch free network connection. We use Netflix so much in this household we get close to or over our Cox 250GB monthly data cap every month. Luckily Cox doesn't seem to strictly enforce the limit, at least if you are not grossly over it.
     
  2. CloudAtlas

    CloudAtlas New Member

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    Netflix does not use HTML5 with this engine. Using JavaScript they build the UI with a custom JavaScript API that utilizes the native graphics framework. Netflix is an early adopter of technology including HTML5. Unfortunately for their HTML5 based application to run properly on certain platforms, including platforms that have limited cpu, graphics and memory, they had to leave out features such as Profiles, etc.

    So every platform had different features and each platform had to be maintained individually. That's why my PS3 Netflix didn't look like my Roku which was different than the Tivo. And updates to certain platforms like PS3 were often while Roku and Tivo lagged by a year.

    Very impressive. Better performance, same UI and features on all platforms rolled out around the same time is a win win. I mean they got it to work on a Premiere! Funny thing is they still haven't pushed out to my Roku 2.
     
  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I use it quite a bit too, and have only ever had a reboot once. And it was completely random while I was watching something and not even touching the remote, so it might have been the TiVo itself that caused the reboot.
     
  4. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I swear I jinxed myself. Right after I posted this I watched the movie Flight. During the movie there was one point where my internet was acting up and it kept dropping to SD. But eventually it recovered and I finished the movie in HD. When it was over I exited the movie, rated it, and a couple other things on my recent list, then hit the TiVo button. The screen was black for a good 20 seconds and then the lights blinked and I saw "Welcome powering up". :(
     
  5. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    The TiVo HD did this.

    The TiVo Premiere did this.

    Not surprisingly, the TiVo Roamio STILL does this.

    It usually started off with Netflix "locking up the TiVo", but the core DVR functions kept running (just not the menus/UI), and we complained.

    The fix always ends up with the TiVo rebooting, instead of locking up.

    I'd prefer it just locked-up, but continued recording, and to record, until a convenient time to pull the power cord (when you know nothing will be recording). Of course I'd prefer it just worked right. But, we all should know better by now. TiVo can't handle network issues, of any sort, without something going wrong, or not working right.

    Sad, that we pay for these "newer, better, improved" TiVos over and over again, and we have to use something else with every generation, like a Roku or WD TV Live product, just to watch Netflix, or risk a reboot and risk our recordings.

    Why should we have to care what is scheduled to record, in deciding if we want to watch Netflix? We shouldn't have to. But, even I bought the next gen, hoping TiVo could finally deliver the "one box", that they advertised the last generation (Premiere) as.

    Thank god, you can't buy anything that connects to a TV that doesn't do Netflix. If so many other products can do it, WTH is wrong with TiVo's programmers and engineers, that they can't do it.

    My 2011 Sony TV has Netflix integrated in it. It always has worked, and still does. I don't care for the Sony unified interface, but it WORKS! I mean never, once, has it locked-up, or rebooted, nor has any other product I already mentioned.
     
  6. JohnnyO

    JohnnyO Crimper

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    Similar results here with a Roamio Basic. Mine is also on a solid wired network connection. Our Comcast cable service is also very solid. I really love the new Netflix App/UI on the TiVO. Having 5.1 surround is huge. I don't have to use my Apple TV for Netflix anymore.
     
  7. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    I seams that the TiVo/Netflix interface is very sensitive to little internet interruptions of only a few milliseconds that most people would normally never notice, this does not effect Netflix on most smart TV or other Netflix receivers.
     
  8. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    With the help of kmttg and moyekj I was able to confirm yesterday that the Netflix app does NOT use the Opera browser. The YouTube app does, but the Netflix app seems to use it's own thing. This probably explains why the Netflix app is capable of crashing the whole system and YouTube is not.
     
  9. nooneuknow

    nooneuknow TiVo User Since 2007

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    +1 :up: 100% agree.
     

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