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Need help with Sony Receiver and Tivo Premiere

Discussion in 'TiVo Home Media Features & TiVoToGo' started by atomarchio, Jun 16, 2012.

  1. atomarchio

    atomarchio Member

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    Have Tivo Premiere using Streambaby. My connection is HDMI and I am using 3 speakers (left, center, right) in my family room.

    We are only using a Sony DA3500ES and don't like the sound. The audio is not clear when watching movie with streambaby. There are no bars when lowering, increasing volume which is quite annoying. So the volume is either too low or too high.

    Should I purchase another receiver to improve sound quality? If so, any suggestions on brand/model?

    Or is there something else I should do? Please let me know. Thanks.
     
  2. jcthorne

    jcthorne Active Member

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    We will need more information to help you diagnose your problem. As much as I am not a fan of Sony audio components, I really do not think that is your problem here. Its more likely an incorrect downmix of audio tracks or something wrong with the file you are streaming. If the file is stereo audio, or worse AAC 5.1 its likely that the center channel dialog is missing or misdirected by the time you hear it. Post up some information on the file you are streaming (a mediainfo cut n paste would be great) and folk here can chime in on what may be your issue. Could also be setup of stream baby.
     
  3. atomarchio

    atomarchio Member

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    I purchased a Sony receiver because I already had a Sony TV and thought they would together better. Obviously, that was a mistake. Apparently, I am learning the hardway.

    Originally, I only had left/center speakers. Then I purchased a center channel which did help but only a little.

    I am not sure what to do. Buy more speakers, different receiver, etc.

    Although all of my files have this issue. I just picked one. I downloaded the Mediainfo program with the information. Hopefully I did this right.

    Thank you for help.

    General
    Complete name : \\HPSERVERLX\Videos\Kids Movies\2008.DVDRiP.avi
    Format : AVI
    Format/Info : Audio Video Interleave
    File size : 697 MiB
    Duration : 1h 44mn
    Overall bit rate mode : Variable
    Overall bit rate : 935 Kbps
    Writing application : VirtualDubMod 1.5.10.2 (build 2540/release)
    Writing library : VirtualDubMod build 2540/release

    Video
    ID : 0
    Format : MPEG-4 Visual
    Format profile : Advanced Simple@L5
    Format settings, BVOP : 2
    Format settings, QPel : No
    Format settings, GMC : No warppoints
    Format settings, Matrix : Default (H.263)
    Codec ID : XVID
    Codec ID/Hint : XviD
    Duration : 1h 44mn
    Bit rate : 796 Kbps
    Width : 640 pixels
    Height : 272 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 2.35:1
    Frame rate : 25.000 fps
    Color space : YUV
    Chroma subsampling : 4:2:0
    Bit depth : 8 bits
    Scan type : Progressive
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.183
    Stream size : 593 MiB (85%)
    Writing library : XviD 1.2.0SMP (UTC 2006-01-08)

    Audio
    ID : 1
    Format : MPEG Audio
    Format version : Version 1
    Format profile : Layer 3
    Mode : Joint stereo
    Mode extension : MS Stereo
    Codec ID : 55
    Codec ID/Hint : MP3
    Duration : 1h 44mn
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 128 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Sampling rate : 48.0 KHz
    Compression mode : Lossy
    Stream size : 94.3 MiB (14%)
    Alignment : Aligned on interleaves
    Interleave, duration : 24 ms (0.60 video frame)
    Interleave, preload duration : 145 ms
    Writing library : LAME3.90.
    Encoding settings : -m j -V 4 -q 2 -lowpass 17.6 --abr 128
     
  4. SNJpage1

    SNJpage1 Active Member

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    You said you originally only had a left and a center speaker. Did you mean to say left and right speakers? If what you typed is correct then you are losing a lot of the sound by not having a right speaker.
     
  5. atomarchio

    atomarchio Member

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    I meant to say I originally only had left/right speakers. Then I added a center channel which did help.

    However, I am wondering if my problem is related to the fact that my Sony receiver does not have any kind of visual indicator when increasing/decreasing the volume. (I am using HDMI and I called Sony about this).

    Would switching to a different receiver which does have a visual LED indicator when increasing/decreasing volume help?

    While not have these visual volume indicators is annoying, I think I am still having other issues.
     
  6. jcthorne

    jcthorne Active Member

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    Well the file you are transcoding and loading to your tivo only contains stereo audio encoded as mp3 format. So any more than a stereo pair of speakers will not help with this file. Do you have the reciever set to some kind of faux surround mode? Or Dolby prologic? Either of which will cause diffeculties for you without the correct speakers for the sound field its trying to generate. You should be using a straight pass through mode.

    Have you played the file on your pc to verify the sound quality is good there?

    The volume is either loud enough for you or not, of what use is the indicator other than knowing where its set before listening to avoid too loud before starting. Its a convienience but hardly necessary.
     
  7. atomarchio

    atomarchio Member

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    I selected the "multi-stereo" on my receiver as that sends sound to all 3 speakers (left, center, right).

    I can't figure out how to turn the surround sound effects off. It does not seem to give me an option to do that.
     
  8. atomarchio

    atomarchio Member

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    Should I change any settings on the Tivo itself?
     
  9. kevo777

    kevo777 My TiVo Gets Me

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    Not sure what "multi-stereo" means, but I've never seen an HT unit generate a sound field optimized for a 3-channel setup. Not to say one doesn't or can't exist. If it's sending audio to left, right, AND center channels, then it's most likely "upmixing" a 2-channel source into a 5.1 mix. If this is the case (guessing here) then you definitely want to change to just a 2-channel left and right-only stereo mode.

    I hope this helps.
     
  10. atomarchio

    atomarchio Member

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    This is a Sony 3500ES receiver. It says sending speaker output to all speakers including left, center, right.

    I've selected this one over 2-channel because then no sound comes out of my center channel speaker then.

    It sounds like this would be the only option I have, right? Is there anything else I can do at this point?
     
  11. jcthorne

    jcthorne Active Member

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    Turn off multi stereo, its part of your distortion problem. You have a recording with 2 channel stereo sound, should have sound from front left and right speakers only. There is no dialog center channel track.
     
  12. jcthorne

    jcthorne Active Member

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    Yes, start with better program material that has ac3 DD 5.1 sound track.

    Your reciever likely has a theater mode, Dolby digital mode or THX Home Cinima mode. Use that. It will play the sound channels sent by the tivo over the HDMI digital cable and not try to remix channels that do not exist.
     
  13. atomarchio

    atomarchio Member

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    Regarding better program material, I had the file in AVI but I am converting to MP4 so it will play on the Tivo.

    I've had issues with AVI files in the past and this conversion was solving the problem.

    But is it creating the audio problem?
     

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