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Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by rcobourn, Mar 25, 2008.
I have a Tivo series 3 HD TCD648250B for which I need a disk image to use with winMFS.
Can anyone help me out? My original hard drive just up and died.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Snagged it. Thanks! Now I'm just waiting on the new drive to arrive...
I think this is 11.0k and not m, but it's new enough to let you put a 2TB in there
and newegg happens to have one on sale for a few more hours
and promo code
brings it down to $90
After restoring the image to a drive, when it says it finished and that you have extra space, and asks if you want to expand, tell it no.
Then check the drive with
to make sure everything looks okay. At any time after that, including a test period in the TiVo if you like, you can expand by running
And as long as you've got the lid off, take a good look at the capacitors in the power supply--better yet, if you've got a voltmeter, check the actual DC output voltages where it plugs onto the motherboard.
Thank you so much for your quick response! I'm going to try this with a 1TB samsung green drive i had laying around, but 2TB sure sounds awesome.
Looking for a WinMFS or DvrBARS image for a Premiere TCD746320. Can anybody help? Thanks!
There's no such thing as a WinMFS image (or for that matter an MFS Tools/MFS Live image) for anything newer than the various Series 3 models, and the Premiere, of course, is a Series 4.
As for a DvrBARS image, best place to ask is the DvrBARS thread.
hello my dads rca dvr80 hard drive crashed and i am trying to prep a new hard drive for him. does anyone have a link for the image?
This is in reference to your post 831 as Im upgrading my Tivo Series 3.
Unitron, I need your help!
I purchased my 1 TB hard drive from amazon (WD AV-GP 1 TB AV Video Hard Drive: 3.5 Inch, SATA III, 64 MB Cache - WD10EURX)
Put it in my desktop and ran WinMFS. Notice that it shows 0 GB and only 65134 sectors. (see attached screenshot).
So when I go ahead and perform the restore from the .tbk file, it says that the "Destination Drive is too small". I already tried the delete format option.
What do you think is the problem?
I hope you did not let Windows Disk Management see that drive, or even format it either. If you did, you would have to delete all the partitions on the drive before running WinMFS.
What version of Windows are you running?
Do you have a GigaByte brand motherboard?
Refer to this post
for instructions on how to hook yourself up with a copy of the Ultimate Boot CD--you may need something on it in addition to the WD diagnostic software which is on it and you need to run the WD long test on that new drive before putting it into service after we figure out why the size reporting is screwy.
Yes, Gigabyte motherboard
Okay, Ill try to run a test on it now.
I was able to boot up ultimate boot CD, however, Im not sure which option I should run. I chose HDD-->Diagnosis and found 2 Western Digital diagnostic. I chose the more recent one and it loaded something but then nothing happened after that.
BTW, should I unplug my master primary drive while I do this? The new Tivo drive is the secondary drive.
The reason I asked about a GigaByte motherboard is that some of them in recent years put a Host Protected Area on hard drives without warning or seeking permission as soon as you boot.
Supposedly it only goes onto the "first" hard drive, so that if you had a board that was just PATA/IDE, it would go on the Primary master, provided you had a hard drive hooked there, or if the board was SATA only it would go only on the drive hooked to port 0 or port 1, depending on where they start counting, although say the ports are labeled 1-4, if there's no hard drive on 1, for whatever reason, it would try to find one on port 2, and then 3, and then 4.
As I say, it's supposed to only put an HPA on the first hard drive, which ordinarily would be the one you boot into Windows with, but it's worth checking to see if it put on your new drive as well because if it did that might be part of your problem.
If it's a fairly new motherboard, maybe they've even thought of some other boneheaded thing to do to drives about which I've yet to hear.
Also recently Amazon had some new WD20EURSs for sale, except it was actually some "partner" outfit selling them on Amazon and not Amazon themselves, and the drives weren't actually new, they had either been removed from, or were intended for, external enclosures (the WD Elements line) and so were already formatted and had stuff on them. So if you bought the drive from the Amazon site, but not directly from Amazon, who knows what might be going on with it.
There's a command line utility on both the MFS Live cd and somewhere on the UBCD called
If you know that your Windows drive is connected to the first SATA port on the motherboard, you could type
hdparm -N /dev/sda
and hit the Enter key, and it should return a line that includes 2 numbers separated by a /
If the numbers are equal, then there's no HPA, if not, there probably is.
You should leave the Windows drive connected so that the motherboard will find the HPA on it and not put another one anywhere else when it boots up.
Assuming you've got the Windows drive connected to the first SATA port and the cd or dvd drive connected to the second one and the new drive connected to the third
hdparm -N /dev/sdc
should show you if there's an HPA on the new drive.
Check that out and report back and if necessary I'll try to tutor you on how to use
to undo the HPA without doing any damage.
(hdparm has the ability to do a lot of damage if misused)
For whatever reason, I had the new hard drive on port 0, CD drive on port 2, and windows drive on port3. Yes, that does seem backwards and I didnt know it really made a difference.
So because the new drive was on port 0, do you think that HPA was put on it?
1. Do you think I should try rearranging the drives to the proper port order now and then run WinMFS again?
2. Or just rearrange and run the hdparm?
3. Or dont rearrange and run hdparm?
4. I also have an SATA to USB adapter cable that I can use as well if that helps any.
I am new on this forum and my Tivo series 2, TCD540040 gave me the GSOD and is recycling. If anyone could please send me an image for this model I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you, Phil S.
Because the new drive was on port 0 I'm almost certain you've got an HPA on there, and you may need to leave it there as a decoy while we figure out what's going on with the Windows drive which we will eventually place on port 0, but not just yet.
Need sleep--longer, more informative post tomorrow.
When and if you need a new image, the links are here:
but don't just go slapping one on the current drive that's (allegedly) giving trouble until you know what the problem is.
For instance, if it's a Series 2 or Series 3 TiVo, the odds are good your power supply needs capacitors replaced and will continue to cause strange symptoms until then.
While you're checking the power supply, you can also hook the drive up to a PC (but do not make it the "first" drive on a GigaByte brand motherboard) and run the drive maker's own diagnostic software "long test" (if it's a Maxtor, use the Seagate software) to make sure that there's still a good drive underneath the TiVo software on the drive.
Then if that checks out we can see what can be done about the TiVo software on the drive.
But not tonight.
The stuff needed is on the UBCD, but if I could persuade you to download the .iso for the MFS Live cd and burn a bootable copy of that, the same stuff will be easier to get to
and I won't have to divert a PC from TiVo show copying to boot it with the UBCD to refresh my memory about how to get to the stuff we'll need.