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Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by rcobourn, Mar 25, 2008.

  1. Dec 18, 2011 #761 of 2376
    lillevig

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    I have a working image (WINMFS) for the S1 Philips but it is over 6GB in size so I can't post it like I can with my other images. If no one else can get one to you, I would be willing to copy it to an 8GB flash drive or SDHC card if you send it to me.
     
  2. Dec 18, 2011 #762 of 2376
    vsaltv

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    If i set up an ftp would you be able to upload it to me? I really hope so :)
     
  3. Dec 18, 2011 #763 of 2376
    lillevig

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    I haven't tried that but would be willing to give it a go. I'll PM my e-mail address so you can send the necessary info to me. You won't be able to PM until you get at least 10 posts.
     
  4. Dec 18, 2011 #764 of 2376
    unitron

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    That's like double huge for an S1 image, did you include a bunch of shows or something?
     
  5. Dec 18, 2011 #765 of 2376
    vsaltv

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    I sent the mail.. can you believe i've been a member here for like what 6 yrs and still can't send a PM lol

    not to mention when i first signed up i could send PMs, they must have taken it away
     
  6. Dec 18, 2011 #766 of 2376
    vsaltv

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    I wouldn't mind if it was 10 gig heh, I am so happy to get an image!!!
     
  7. Dec 18, 2011 #767 of 2376
    unitron

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    If you have a universal remote that'll do both Sony and Philips TiVos, then burn yourself a copy of the MFS Live cd (not WinMFS) and download the Sony image from this link

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=6228202#post6228202

    and restore it onto a non-Caviar Blue drive of at least 30GB, no need for the -x option to expand for your purposes, and do not use the -p option either, because that's only for S2s and newer. While you're at it, skip the -z option as well.

    [Also, if you use a drive larger than 128GB or 137GB, depending how you figure GB, I'm not sure if you'll need to run copykern (it's on a different cd, though. I can walk you through where to get it and how to how to use it to patch the kernel if that's necessary) to make the kernel LBA48 aware or not, since you won't be expanding.

    We'll just have to wait and see on that one, but only if you use a drive that goes over the limit.]

    That'll get the Philips up and running, and it's version 3 of the software so you can use a TurboNet card or a CacheCard to connect over the internet, or for telephone line connection an external modem (or use a program called pilotnet to connect to a 9 pin serial port on a computer with an internal modem and use that) if necessary (S1 modems are notorious for getting killed by spikes other equipment never notices).

    Once we get your immediate problem solved we can work on getting you a proper Philips image for it later.
    I think you'll have to use the Sony remote codes to control it.
     
  8. Dec 19, 2011 #768 of 2376
    vsaltv

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    is it ok if the universal remote is infrared only? I have a few tivo brand remotes.
     
  9. Dec 19, 2011 #769 of 2376
    unitron

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    Almost all remotes are infrared only, unless you're talking about those expensive things.

    When I say universal remote, I'm not talking about one of those $100-$300 things with more buttons than a fabric store, just a 3 or 4 device $10 to $20 type.

    The Tivo brand remotes will run an S1 Philips-made TiVo, provided that it's running the S1 software intended for Philips-made TiVos, but we're going to be running Sony-made TiVo S1 software on that Philips-made S1 TiVo, so we need something that can do the Sony TiVo remote codes*, and a universal is cheaper and easier to lay your hands on than an actual Sony TiVo remote.

    *There was also one Sony Series 2 TiVo.

    Please note that if you got hold of a Philips S1 image, you won't need something that does Sony S1 codes. Only if you use that Sony image I linked to will you have to use the Sony remote codes.

    If you use a Philips S1 image, any of those TiVo remotes you have should work just fine.

    Now, what kind of hard drive are you going to be using?
     
  10. Dec 19, 2011 #770 of 2376
    vsaltv

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    Let me look (trying to get 10 relevant posts heh)
    OK I got a Seagate 10gb 9w1001 (will edit post when i find more hdd's they are everywhere)
    Next is a Maxtor 5.7gb 90576d4
    Next a Maxtor 200gb BAH41E00

    I think that's all my old IDE style drives. I could also pull I believe a 40gb out of my DirectTivo unit if need be but would rather leave that along seeing how difficult it is to get images these days.

    Can I expand the sony image on a 200gb drive but keep the partition under 137gb limit?
     
  11. Dec 19, 2011 #771 of 2376
    lillevig

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    No shows but it does have all of my Guide data (didn't know about Clear and Delete Everything back then). I did it two different times, about a month apart, on the same 14GB original drive. If I still had the drive I'd put it back in, do a C&DE and try again. As of now the only one I have available to pull an image from is an 80GB drive. It has always mystified me as to why the S1 image is so huge compared to the S2 and S3 images I've pulled. I tried to get an answer from Spike some time ago but I think he has quit replying to posts.
     
  12. Dec 19, 2011 #772 of 2376
    vsaltv

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    Wish I could send you a faster internet so you can send the image to me :p I think you are the last guy on earth who can properly restore a S1
     
  13. Dec 19, 2011 #773 of 2376
    lillevig

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    If I have time later today I can pull the 80GB drive from my remaining S1, restore the old 14GB image without expanding, do a CD&E, and then try to capture a new image. If that doesn't work then I know a guy who collects old computer parts who may be willing to loan me a 15 or 20GB drive to image. I really don't think I'm the last guy able to image S1's but I'm late to the Tivo party and did a lot of messing around with four S1's before I moved up so my experiences are relatively fresh.
     
  14. Dec 19, 2011 #774 of 2376
    lillevig

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    Did all the stuff I mentioned above and sent you an e-mail with a link to the new image. The C&DE cut the file size down to about 130 MB.
     
  15. Dec 20, 2011 #775 of 2376
    unitron

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    What you can do with the Sony image is use MFS Live to restore it to a drive 30GB or larger without expanding, and that'll be enough to let that S1 contact the mothership and re-assert the lifetime sub to qualify you for Multi-Set Discount, or MSD. But you'll need something that outputs the Sony remote codes.

    If you want to do more than that, like keep using the S1 as a TiVo, you can go ahead with the Sony image now, on the 200GB Maxtor, and then we can talk about putting a Philips image on it later, (and how you'll need to learn how to unlock the drive) and using the copykern utility to patch the kernel to make it LBA48 aware.

    If you already have a Philips image, then either MFS Live or WinMFS, depending on which was used to make the image, can restore it, as 30GB of space used, to that 200Gb, and then we can use copykern, and then we can expand. If you do that, suggest you specify a swap partition size of 100 to 128 MB during the initial restore and do not use the "optimized" partition layout (which is only for Series 2 and newer models, and only confuses an S1).
     
  16. Dec 20, 2011 #776 of 2376
    vsaltv

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    Can I image to a 200gb IDE drive but use a smaller than 137gb partition on it so i can get this box up and running? Or any use of a 200gb drive require a kernel patch regardless of partition size?
     
  17. Dec 20, 2011 #777 of 2376
    unitron

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    Either the Sony image I linked to or any S1 Philips image you're likely to get will restore as 30GB worth of partitions.

    Just don't expand (which on a TiVo drive means adding partitions) until after you've run copykern.

    And don't run copykern until I tell you how.
     
  18. Dec 20, 2011 #778 of 2376
    vsaltv

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    Thank you very much, so what you're saying is as long as I don't expand that image past its original partition size, i should be good to go to boot up on the 200gb drive :) I'll post my results of this imaging once completed. :)
     
  19. Dec 20, 2011 #779 of 2376
    unitron

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    Yeah, the Series 1 TiVo hardware can handle drives up to about 1TB (which means a SATA drive with a Marvell chipset based SATA/IDE adapter).

    It's the TiVo's software that has the problem until you patch the kernel.
     
  20. Dec 20, 2011 #780 of 2376
    lillevig

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    The new S1 Philips image I pointed you to has 14GB of partitions. That's the smallest drive they put into one of those boxes. I didn't have a small drive to burn it to (to see if the 60+GB Apple Free partition would cause WINMFS to barf) but then I remembered that I had a 16GB SDHC card. WINMFS had no problem with it.
     

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