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NBC Olympics coverage may be improving

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Marco, Dec 19, 2013.

  1. Jan 8, 2014 #101 of 391
    NYHeel

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    Right, but if you're using a DVR who cares if the stuff is live anyway. It's much easier the way NBC does it because I don't have to worry about recording stuff on different channels and different times. NBC just puts the main stuff on during primetime (with prelim stuff during the day) and I could just cull through that with my DVR. If you want to watch any of the non-main sports you could go searching for those channels.
     
  2. Jan 8, 2014 #102 of 391
    replaytv

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    You would think anybody in their right minds would have a DVR, but none of my family or friends ( except one ) have them and I have tried to give each of them one with lifetime for free!! Go figure.
     
  3. Jan 8, 2014 #103 of 391
    Ruth

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    The Olympics is the time I am the most grateful for my TiVo. I honestly don't know how anybody could possibly get through the NBC coverage without a DVR. I FF through all the commercials, puff pieces, interviews, profiles, sob stories, and other crap, and can usually watch a 4-hour prime time broadcast in well under 2 hours -- even less if I'm not interested in all the sports that are being shown.

    It is pretty pathetic how little actual competition they show in prime time broadcasts. If you're lucky, you see very American (no matter whether they have any chance of medaling), plus the top 4-5 medal contenders, and that's it. If they cut down on all the puff pieces and BS that has nothing to do with sports, they could show so much more and the coverage would be SO much better. I love to watch all the unusual sports that you only see at the Olympics (speed skating is my favorite, both kinds), but I couldn't care less about all the personal interest BS.

    I guess showing whole events live is an improvement -- but it's a lot of different recordings to manage. What I'd really love to see is a prime-time broadcast that combines the day's competitions into one show, but without all the fluffy crap pieces. I bet they could show 2x the sports in the same amount of time.
     
  4. Jan 9, 2014 #104 of 391
    Steveknj

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    I look at the Olympics differently than I do say the NFL or MLB. To me, watching the Olympics is a lot more like watching Survivor than the NFL playoffs for instance. I watch it for pure entertainment much more than caring about the sport and even the outcomes (except hockey, which I care immensely about). I don't watch these sports the other 3 years and 50 weeks between Olympics. I have no idea who any of these people are, nor will I care about them a week after the Olympics are over. So during those two weeks I want to know who they are, what their story is and why I should root for (or against) them. Much like Survivor or Big Brother a lot of that comes from their stories, and their struggle and about them trying to be the best they can be. Watching a skiing event not knowing about any of these people is similar to watching a stock ticker. I just have no feelings about it. And it's boring. And I consider myself a big Olympics fan, having watched as much as I can of every Olympiad since 1968, and I even have a lot of older Olympics still recorded on VHS and DVD (from 1984 on). I suppose if you follow these sports and know who all the skier are besides Lindsey Vonn (who's not participating anyway), then you want to see as much as possible. For most of us who don't, I think it's much more interesting to something about them.
     
  5. Jan 9, 2014 #105 of 391
    eddyj

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    Don't be ridiculous. There is not enough actual sports to cover even 2 hours, it seems. :p
     
  6. Jan 9, 2014 #106 of 391
    That Don Guy

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    So would I. One small problem; besides us, who would watch?

    Remember how Olympic broadcasting works.
    Step one: NBC bids against CBS, Fox, and ABC/ESPN for the sole rights to air the Olympics in the USA (which is something I think they should change - let networks bid on, say, individual sports; to handle the "Who would bid for, say, badminton or judo?" problem, lump sports without separate bidders together and give those rights to whoever bids highest for the Opening and Closing Ceremonies).
    Step two: NBC promises sky-high ratings to advertisers in order to make enough money to make this profitable.
    Step three: NBC airs too many sports (besides figure skating) and not enough human interest stories, and half of the potential audience (and pardon me for sounding sexist, but I am under the impression that it's "the female half") don't watch.
    Step four: NBC doesn't deliver the ratings it promised the advertisers, so it has to give heavily discounted advertising time on its popular shows (which, nowadays, is pretty much The Voice and its Sunday night NFL coverage).

    NBC's stated priority is to protect its prime time Olympics ratings.
     
  7. Jan 9, 2014 #107 of 391
    Steveknj

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    They are using a formula that has worked for years. And for those who want to watch "just the sports", there are options. The NBC cable outlets usually cover the sports without as many fluff pieces and you can online stream just about anything.
     
  8. Jan 9, 2014 #108 of 391
    NYHeel

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    The problem is that the sports aren't good enough to stand on their own. There's a reason we don't watch these sports between Olympics (with a few exceptions like Hockey). I don't mean to offend someone who is a big fan of skiing but the overwhelming majority of viewers only watch these sports every 4 years. And we need the pomp and prestige of the big event to make the competitions interesting. We need to see how big a deal the Olympics are to the competitors and what they did to get there. We need the story set.

    With all that said I think NBC could probably cut down on a lot of their non-sports pieces. I almost never watch the Mary Carillo stuff and they do go a little overboard at times with the puff pieces.
     
  9. Jan 9, 2014 #109 of 391
    Steveknj

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    As a history and travel guy, I enjoy the pieces on the host city and country. I will be interested to see if they cover any of the controversy around location, corruption and Putin? My guess is they tread lightly on those issues.

    My one complaint on those puff pieces is sometimes they are just way too long. Those half hour pieces they runs sometimes on late night or to open up a slow event night are too much. A 3-5 minute piece on the key athletes and a few 5 minute pieces on stuff around the Olympics is fine.
     
  10. Jan 9, 2014 #110 of 391
    Ruth

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    I honestly think I get nearly all of that stuff anyway, because the commentary constantly is talking about all that stuff instead of the actual sports. So even if you FF through the fluff segment about how hard it was for so-and-so to rehab her knee and she was told she would never compete again and now here she is at the Olympics! -- as soon as she leaves the starting gate in the actual race, someone says "Yes, isn't it amazing how strong she looks after that knee injury that everyone thought was career-ending? And that was just last April!" Boom! You're up to date with the backstory.

    I know they say it's women who need all that stuff or they won't watch, but I guess I'm just not like that at all. I guess I don't mind a little human interest stuff now and then (although some of the stuff they talk about is pretty stupid)-- but it shouldn't be at the expense of broadcasting the actual sports. If you really feel compelled to mention it, there is plenty of downtime during the actual competition to tell us how so-and-so just loves her little dog named Sochi and doesn't the fact she named her dog that 5 years ago that prove that was destined for Olympic glory? All you have to do is SAY that and I get it. I don't need to waste 5 minutes actually watching her with the dog.
     
  11. Steveknj

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    I guess I'm just not like that. I want to know a bit more about the athletes, otherwise I just don't have a feel for who they are and why I should even bother watching them. Saying a couple of things while the race is going on just doesn't do it for me. One of my complaints as a non-fan of Soccer who might watch a bit of the World Cup is they DON'T do that. I'd love to know who the star players are and why they are stars and something about their careers. I watch the matches and frankly it bores me because I have ZERO idea who these players are. Maybe they do this between matches, I'm not sure, but I haven't seen it. Part of it is because I think a lot of the coverage is done using foreign announcers who don't understand the American audience and assume we follow it like everyone else does.
     
  12. Jagman_sl

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    So very much this! I watch the Olympics to watch the countries competing in the events, not the human interest and geography pieces. If I cared about that I'd watch the Travel Channel or Biography. Or I'd spend all day on Wikipedia reading about the competitors and their home towns.

    I get so annoyed when I fire up the TV to watch a very specific event's coverage and then have to waste 15 minutes learning about some Brazilian luge athlete who had a rough childhood, only to see them eliminated from the competition completely 5 minutes later. Meanwhile, the team who goes on to win that competition wasn't shown competing at all because of that fluff piece.
     
  13. murgatroyd

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    You are mistaken.
     
  14. Steveknj

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    An interesting article from prior to the London Olympics in Time Magazine

    http://olympics.time.com/2012/07/10/why-women-watch-the-olympics-but-tune-out-other-sports/

    From the article:

    In your case, this probably doesn't fit.
     
  15. mattack

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    Umm, if you're going to record it (manually) you need to know what channel it's on.. so I sort of don't understand your complaint.. but it also leads into my answer for your other question..

    Autorecording wishlists.. Olympics + hockey - women*
     
  16. jsmeeker

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    They don;t usually program such discreet blocks. They like to hop around to force you to watch more. But with something like a hockey game, they usually show the full thing without any gaps other than commercial breaks at intermission. And the intermission lasts as long as an actual intermission. They don't re-join an hour later.
     
  17. aindik

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    I don't want to know "what does NBCSN have on Tuesday at noon." I want to know "when (and what channel) is hockey on."
     
  18. That Don Guy

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    Your best chance of this is to wait until just before the Olympics begin, then check the listings for each of the Olympics channels (NBC, NBC Sports Network, MSNBC, CNBC, USA - note Bravo will not have any coverage this time like it did in London) and when a program says "Olympics", check the details for something like "Ice Hockey (M)". Ice hockey games tend to be aired in dedicated blocks.

    Right now, you can try going to the NBC Olympic TV Schedule site and scrolling through the whole thing. Yes, it is tedious, but that seems to be the only way right now of finding out when hockey is on. (The schedule has some glitches; the first men's game I found was "Czech Republic vs. Czech Republic.")

    Note that NBC Sports Network is airing something called "Ice Hockey Game of the Day" each day at around 5 PM Eastern; they don't tell you in advance which game it is (or, for that matter, if it's men's or women's).
     
  19. murgatroyd

    murgatroyd Don't stop believin'

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    So they talked to some focus groups. Big hairy deal.

    We have our own focus group right here, and Ruth and I (among others) are coming in on the side of people who want more sports, and you like some of the features that I would rather see on a pre-game show than in the middle of the competition I want to watch.

    What I object to is that we have other people in the thread insisting that women like one thing and men like another, in direct contradiction of what is being posted in this very thread. Maybe I'm on a lot of people's ignore list, but Ruth's opinion, and yours, deserve to be heard.

    The one thing that I can hope for, I guess, is that figure skating will be covered by a pool feed and shot by people who are used to covering figure skating, and not the ham-handed idiots that just worked the cameras at the US Nationals.
     
  20. realityboy

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    I watch both. I expect to see some real coverage in the longer daytime blocks with filler and recap during prime. I also expect to make liberal use if the ff button in my remote. I don't usually care for interviews (especially in figure skating for some reason). Background pieces are ok, but I know that after a few days, I'll tire of seeing the same stories over and over. I'm already tired of everyone commenting on Gracie Gold's name.
     

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