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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Marco, Dec 19, 2013.
NBC finally has reasonably detailed TV listings posted. http://www.nbcolympics.com/tv
I tell myself I feel this way, but...
Then the fluff stuff comes on and I watch it (and usually enjoy.)
Thanks for the link. I was just going to search!
I don't want "tell me what's on what channel when." I want "tell me when this sport is on."
When can we get that? They have a schedule of the events, sort of, but no channels listed yet as far as I can see.
And, not to be sexist, but can I get a schedule for men's hockey that doesn't also include women's hockey?
NBC can't possibly tell you when each sport will be on with any degree of certainty because they have to add things like interviews and medal ceremonies; also, they tend to cut away from an event and come back to it later (especially with something like figure skating - on final round nights, they'll probably show the Americans out of the medal hunt early, and then an hour-or-so block of the medal contenders later), and some events are heavily edited (obviously NBC isn't going to show a 30km cross-country race in its entirety).
If you go to the TV link in post 81, and enter your information, the events appear to be separated by channel.
Here you go. All times Eastern.
Noon Czech Republic - Sweden
Noon Latvia - Switzerland
3 AM Finland - Austria
7:30 AM Russia - Slovenia
7:30 AM Slovakia - USA
Noon Canada - Norway
3 AM Czech Republic - Latvia
7:30 AM Sweden - Switzerland
Noon Canada - Austria
Noon Norway - Finland
3 AM Slovakia - Slovenia
7:30 AM USA - Russia
Noon Switzerland - Czech Republic
Noon Sweden - Latvia
3 AM Austria - Norway
7:30 AM Russia - Slovakia
7:30 AM Slovenia - USA
Noon Finland - Canada
3 AM Playoff First Round Game 1
7:30 AM Playoff First Round Game 2
Noon Playoff First Round Game 3
Noon Playoff First Round Game 4
3 AM Quarter-Final 1
7:30 AM Quarter-Final 2
Noon Quarter-Final 3
Noon Quarter-Final 4
7 AM Semi-Final 1
Noon Semi-Final 2
10 AM Bronze Medal Game
7 AM Gold Medal Game
Fixed that for ya.
The official Olympic site will tell you what events happen when. You'll have to work from that (for non-hockey - thanks Don for putting that together).
Here is another men's only schedule. Note that the times are Sochi local (9 hours ahead of Eastern). The "medal round" schedule will be finalized once they know which teams are in which positions, in part to allow teams to be placed in time slots that are best for viewing in their home countries. (Most of the countries outside of USA and Canada appear to be 3 hours behind Sochi.)
Also, here's the quick version of how the tournament works:
All games that are tied at the end of regulation will have a 10-minute 4-on-4 (5-on-5, including the goalies) sudden-death period (exception: 20 minutes in the Gold Medal game), followed by a 3-player shootout if necessary.
Once all of the preliminary round games are done, the teams are ranked 1-12 as follows:
1. The group winners are ranked 1-3, second place teams 4-6, third-place teams 7-9, and fourth-place teams 10-12.
Placing in a group is based on record (3 points for a regulation win; 2 for an OT/shootout win; 1 for an OT/shootout loss).
A 2-way tie is broken in favor of whoever won the game between the two teams.
A 3-way tie is broken by:
(a) Record against the other two tied teams
(b) Combined margin of victory against the other two tied teams
(c) Goals scored against the other two tied teams
(d) Apply (a), (b), and (c) against the team in the group not in the tie
(e) Higher world ranking at the end of 2013
If, at any time, one team drops out of the tie, use the 2-team tiebreaker.
Note that a 4-way tie is impossible (there are 6 games in each group, and each game has a total of 3 points; a 4-way tie would mean each team has 4 1/2 points.)
2. The first-place teams are seeded 1-3 using overall record, then total margin of victory, then total goals scored, then 2013 world ranking.
Similarly, the second-place teams are seeded 4-6, the third-place teams are seeded 7-9, and the fourth-place teams are seeded 10-12.
The "medal round" is a single-elimination tournament with brackets based on seed:
#8 vs #9; winner plays #1
#5 vs #12; winner plays #4
The winners of the games with the #1 and #4 seeds play in one semi-final
#7 vs #10; winner plays #2
#6 vs #11; winner plays #3
The winners of the games with the #2 and #3 seeds play in the other semi-final
Note that there are no separate games to determine 5th through 12th place; once you lose in the medal round (except if you lose in the semi-final, because there is a Bronze Medal game), your Olympics are over.
Keeping in mind a couple of things:
First, none of them are between 7 PM and midnight Eastern time (4 AM and 9 AM Sochi time), so when an event actually takes place is irrelevant most of the time. Yes, NBC does things for the highest prime-time ratings - in fact, the executive producer for NBC's Olympics coverage said, "First and foremost, our mission is to protect prime time - that's still the No. 1 priority."
Second, what happens if NBC wants to show two events that are taking place at the same time? The official schedule isn't of too much use for this.
You also have to allow for last-second schedule changes. I am under the impression that Sochi is a little warmer than the IOC would have liked, and there is a chance that some alpine events may have to be postponed because somebody feels that the snow surface isn't safe.
The official schedule is still useful for a couple of things.
1) It's easier to figure out if an event will be on TV if you start from a list of what events are supposed to take place.
2) If the event hasn't happened yet, it's not likely to be on TV.
Are the NBC satellite channels (like NBCSN, USA, etc.) going to cover these events live, even though some might be very early in the morning? Or will those even be delayed? Or repeated.
Here's our USA Women's curling team:
NBCSN is showing all of the figure skating live (except for the two parts of the team competition that take place before the opening ceremonies). The "important" parts of the figure skating coverage will be repeated by NBC.
It looks like most of the ice hockey and curling will be live.
Right now, the online schedule appears to go up just to the first Monday, so it's hard to tell. However, on the first Saturday, NBC Sports Network is airing the USA-Finland women's hockey game live starting at 3 AM Eastern, with some cross country skiing and speed skating at 5:30 AM.
That's good info, Don. Why bother with NBC's site when we have you?
Because two years from now, when the summer Olympics are in Rio, chances are that a lot of things will be live in New York prime time...but I live out west, where most things will probably be on a 3-hour tape delay like they did for Vancouver. (One reason I heard why NBC didn't air the prime time coverage live on, say, Bravo (they would have to use a channel with separate east coast and west coast feeds so they wouldn't tie up a channel out east with something airing simultaneously on NBC), was, somebody was afraid that people would overhear their neighbors' TVs and hear what was happening, which would spoil the coverage they wanted to watch three hours later.)
That is so dumb that only a TV exec could follow that logic, so it must be true.
Because of the sports for the winter Olympics, I won't be watching any of it. I mean what is there to watch, except maybe hockey if the USA gets in the finals.
I'm actually surprised that MSNBC will show all the figure skating live, considering it's their marquee event for the Olympics. You'd think that will cut into their audience on the channel that is getting the higher ad rates (at least I would imagine sponsors will pay more for NBC primetime coverage). I guess they figure, with the time difference much of their audience is going to know the results ahead of time anyway. Have they done this before with marquee events?
For me, that's what makes it interesting. I watch sports I'd never watch otherwise, because it's the big event. And I enjoy most of them. I've actually watched a little of the US Trials in a few sports on NBCSN to get to know a few athletes in some sports. I equate it to those who watch the Super Bowl, but don't watch football the rest of the season. I do get how for some that might be boring, to watch something you don't normally have a desire to watch, but what can I say? I'm a sucker for the big event.
Remember, "live" means "the events end by 2:30 PM Eastern time". NBC probably figures there won't be that many people watching it live, and since the results will be spoiled on local news programs anyway, it might as well get some ratings (and TV commercial revenue) out of it.
Also remember that every event is streamed live online, although you might need to have a cable/satellite subscription that includes a particular channel in order to watch an event that's being shown live on that channel, and there's no guarantee that every event online will have commentary. (I remember a cycling event in 2012 where, without commentary, you didn't realize that the winner had been dropped to second place for some foul until you saw a results listing about 10 minutes after the event ended that had the apparent silver medalist placed first.)
But everyone these days has a DVR. Why watch figure skating "live" (as it airs) in prime time when, instead, you could record it in the morning and watch your recording during prime time, fast forwarding through all the commercials?
I have to say, i watch the Olympics differently than I do other sporting events. I generally prefer to sit down at prime time and watch a hodgepodge of different events. So on a given night, I might enjoy watching some skiing, figure skating and bob sledding. I think just watching 4 hours of figure skating, even without commercials would bore me. My only exception is hockey. If I'm home and there's hockey on, I'll watch the whole games and use the NBC time to watch the other stuff.