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NBC has record sweeps...and not in a good way.

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Azlen, Feb 25, 2013.

  1. That Don Guy

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    Three new shows? Doesn't that make the assumption that:
    (a) Community won't be back;
    (b) neither will Whitney;
    (c) neither will Guys With Kids?
    EDIT: (d) neither will Go On or The New Normal?

    I wouldn't be surprised to see Go On moved to Thursday, so it could have two established and two new comedies, and free up the first hour on Wednesday (which is pretty much a dead slot, as it is against The X Factor performances in the fall and American Idol performances in the spring) and the second hour on Tuesday for something else.
     
  2. jsmeeker

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    looking at my current SP list, here are the shows I have that are on NBC

    The Office
    The New Normal
    Revolution
    Parenthood
    Smash
    1600 Penn
    NBC Nightly News

    A pretty decent amount, I think. In the past, I had SPs for notable shows like Friday Night Lights and The West Wing
     
  3. DreadPirateRob

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    Shows that either I or my wife(*) watch:

    NBC - Community, Parks & Rec, The Office, Go On, Parenthood, Revolution
    CBS - Survivor, BBT, HIMYM
    ABC - Nashville, Modern Family, Suburgatory, Happy Endings, Once Upon a Time (but I'm like 13 eps behind on that, so I might drop it), Grey's Anatomy*, Bachelor*
    FOX - New Girl, Mindy Project, Glee, Raising Hope (also way behind on that one)
    CW - Supernatural, Hart of Dixie*, 90210* (is that still on?)

    So CBS may be America's most watched network, but it's just about my least-watched one.
     
  4. DevdogAZ

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

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    Four of the five shows you named aren't currently on Thursday night, so I don't think that saying they'll have three new shows on Thursday next week automatically means all those shows won't be back.
     
  5. WhiskeyTango

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    The only show I watch on NBC is Revolution. Last pilot season, I had high hopes for a bunch of their shows but Revolution was the only one that got picked up. Without actually looking it up, I'd guess most of the shows I watch are on cable but ABC or CBS would be the biggest networks.
     
  6. mattack

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    Law & Order is an NBC show (I think you know that).

    Even though the production company for NBC is under the same corporate parent as NBC the broadcast network, I don't think that always matters as much as you think it does. For example, NBC would care about the ratings of the show *as it airs* and the production company is the one that cares about the syndication income. Yes, it's better for the entire entity to have shows made by the same corporate parent rather than another company getting the money.
     
  7. Mar 1, 2013 #127 of 164
    That Don Guy

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    I realize that. I figure that at least one of the shows will be moved to Thursday (possibly unless NBC decides to renew 1600 Penn). This would free up the Wednesday 8-9 (Eastern) and/or Tuesday 9-10 slots for hour-long shows.

    My current list of NBC shows:
    Smash
    Revolution
    Whitney
    Chicago Fire
    Parks & Recreation
    1600 Penn
    America's Got Talent
    (I was also watching 30 Rock up until it ended)
     
  8. Mar 1, 2013 #128 of 164
    aadam101

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    That was my thought. These are not Thursday shows. None of them have done all that well anyway. I don't expect Community to return.

    You are probably right that some of those shows will be moved to Thursday.
     
  9. Mar 1, 2013 #129 of 164
    aadam101

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    I realize it is an NBC show. It's a procedural like so many of those CBS shows. Most of those shows all do very well and L&O did very well for a VERY long time. Cancelling it did not make a lot of sense. It continued to pull in decent numbers.
     
  10. Mar 1, 2013 #130 of 164
    WhiskeyTango

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    Not really. It was getting around a 1.7 in it's last season at a time when ratings were higher across the board. 24 ended that same year with ratings around 2.9.
     
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    DevdogAZ

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    Exactly. 1.7s (and below) are now commonplace for NBC, but 2-3 years ago, that was still considered a horrible rating.
     
  12. Mar 1, 2013 #132 of 164
    That Don Guy

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    It took me a minute to understand what you meant by that...
    Then again, wasn't Whitney's first season on Thursdays?

    I think it has one chance - if enough of its fans drink the "100 episodes or no syndication" Kool-aid and make enough of a stink that NBC orders 13 more episodes. Never mind that Comedy Central already has a syndication deal for the show. (Then again, if somebody really feels that it needs 100 episodes, I wouldn't be a bit surprised if CC itself has them produced, the way it does with Futurama.)
     
  13. Mar 1, 2013 #133 of 164
    aadam101

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    My thought exactly. 1.7 is a VERY welcome number for NBC these days.
     
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    DevdogAZ

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    With a syndication deal already in place, that means the production studio is going to be much more eager to negotiate a good deal to keep the show on the air. If the studio offers to let NBC air the show for next to nothing, because they know they're going to make their money on the back end from the syndication deal, NBC can't really afford to turn that down. Rumors are that they're losing hundreds of millions of dollars each year. If they can fill a timeslot with average ratings (for them) at virtually no cost, that seems like a no brainer.
     
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    jsmeeker

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    I forgot about Chicago Fire. I have an SP for that too.
     
  16. Mar 1, 2013 #136 of 164
    DevdogAZ

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    The broadcast network shows I watch are:

    NBC (7): Community, Parks & Rec, The Office, Revolution, Go On, Whitney, Up All Night*
    CBS (6): Survivor, The Amazing Race, BBT, HIMYM, 2.5 Men, Rules of Engagement
    FOX (6): The Simpsons, Bob's Burgers, Family Guy, American Dad, New Girl, The Following
    ABC (2): Modern Family, Happy Endings

    *Not sure if I'll continue watching Up All Night if/when it comes back, but I'll have to at least check out the changes.

    I also watched 30 Rock and Fringe which recently ended their runs, and I still watch Cougar Town which moved from broadcast to cable.

    Looking at that list, it seems I really like sitcoms. It also seems that I don't like drama, but that's not true. It's just that most of the drama I enjoy is on cable, rather than the cookie-cutter procedurals or soaps that are on broadcast.
     
  17. Mar 1, 2013 #137 of 164
    aadam101

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    Yikes. An NBC affiliate chose to air a Matlock movie made in 1992 instead of the Thursday night lineup. Matlock did better than 1600 Penn and about the same as an Office Rerun. The state of "Must See TV" has REALLY changed!


    http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/03/01/nbc-affiliate-matlock/
     
  18. Mar 1, 2013 #138 of 164
    JYoung

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    But it wasn't when Law & Order was cancelled.
    Plus, you're assuming it would get a 1.7 now.
     
  19. Mar 2, 2013 #139 of 164
    Inundated

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    That was our NBC affiliate in Cleveland, WKYC, and the stations in this market have a long history of pre-empting low-rated network shows every so often with Matlock reruns.

    Still, pretty amazing when you look at it.

    That logo was appropriated, er, stolen from Nebraska Public Television, no? As I recall, NBC had to pay them a settlement...
     
  20. Mar 3, 2013 #140 of 164
    Jesda

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    I'm still pissed that L&O is gone. NBC deserves to suffer!
     

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