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Motive on ABC uses original Canadian air dates

Discussion in 'Season Pass Alerts' started by scandia101, May 9, 2013.

  1. MPSAN

    MPSAN Active Member

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    So, this makes me think the show was not that good. ;)
     
  2. lpwcomp

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    Don't take that as an indicator of its quality. I am just way behind in my viewing. As a matter of fact, the only reason I've seen even the first episode is that I made a special effort to do so. It was OK. Worth checking out and making your own decision. You could acquire the 3* episodes by, uh, "magical" means, if you want to see them before the series starts showing on ABC again.


    *Actually, you could acquire the entire first season if you wanted.:)
     
  3. astrohip

    astrohip Well-Known Member TCF Club

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    Heretic. Bite your tongue. Take it back.
     
  4. MPSAN

    MPSAN Active Member

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    OK, DEL "it is only tv";)

    We do not watch T&V on a computer so not sure how to get the previous shows with my XL4.
     
  5. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    Can't really discuss how to get them to your computer. Getting them from the computer to the TiVo can be discussed. Or you could always use your free week of Hulu Plus, but the TiVo servers are down so even that is not possible at the moment.
     
  6. sieglinde

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    I would not be surprised if the 3 eps aren't being repeated on TV.
     
  7. shiffrin

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    Motive showed up on my to do list this morning for a June 27 airing of episode 4.
     
  8. MPSAN

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    Yes, I just looked and mine did too. I did modify the SP, so do not know if it would have found it if I kept it as First Run Only.
     
  9. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    *sigh* I give up.
     
  10. MPSAN

    MPSAN Active Member

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    NO! I know what you said. I just wonder if ABC will ever fix it.
     
  11. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    The problem is, you don't really understand what I said. However, I will try one last time with a fuller explanation end examples.

    The Original Air Date, which is what the scheduler uses to determine if the episode meets the criteria for an FRO SP, is the date it first aired - anywhere. This situation has existed for a long time on channels like SYFY and BBCA that show numerous series that air first in Canada or the UK. It's just that it is very unusual for one of the broadcast networks to air a series that aired elsewhere first.

    This does not mean that an FRO SP will never pick up episodes of a series that initially airs elsewhere first. It's just that the U.S. airing must be soon enough that the OAD still qualifies.

    As an example, "Lost Girl" used to air on SYFY months after it initially aired in Canada so that you had to set your SP to record reruns. With the most recent season, episodes aired on SYFY a week after they aired in Canada. Therefore, I was able to change my SP to FRO.

    The same was true for "Dr. Who" on BBCA, except in that case the episodes actually started airing the same day.

    In point of fact, I doubt that there is anything that ABC could do about it even if they wanted to. TiVo gets their data from TMS. See here for the zap2it "Motive" episode guide. Notice the first aired date. zap2it gets their data from the same place as TiVo, which makes sense as TMS owns zap2it.

    I think part of the problem is that there are at least 3 different visible indicators plus the OAD that can lead to natural confusion: The "NEW" indicator in the TiVo guide, the "NEW" indicator in zap2it, and the "R" flag in the info.

    The "NEW" flag in the TiVo guide is set if the OAD is the same day as the guide entry.

    Both the "NEW" flag in zap2it and the "R" in the info seem to be based on the same thing, i.e. if this is the first U.S. showing. One of the reasons that the TiVo scheduler can't use this field to decide whether or not to schedule it is so that it can record a subsequent showing of an episode when it fails to record the initial showing(the only one w/o the "R") for some reason - conflict, system down, newly created SP, etc. IOW, the TiVo scheduler ignores the presence or absence of the "R".

    If you wish to continue this discussion, feel free to open a new thread in the proper sub-forum. This is really not the proper place for it. However, be forewarned that a lot of us having been dealing with it for years and there's really not much left of that equine corpse. :)
     
  12. MPSAN

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    OK, thank you again and I believe I am OK now. I had thought that they only looked at the R in the guide.
     
  13. sieglinde

    sieglinde New Member

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    I doubt it. I have a few other shows I had to treat the same way such as Merlin.
     

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