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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by markymark_ctown, Nov 15, 2012.
I actually could never figure out what that avatar was (Bald Eagle? game of thrones?). But once it was put in a sexual content, now it's clear as day and can't understand why I couldn't see it before.
You guys are disgusting....
....but very funny...
If she DELIBERATELY answered wrong to throw the match? Yeah----that's a scandal. Whether it could be proved or not, it's a Very Big Deal.
Math Olympics and spelling bees are a completely different kinds of competition. Math Olympics you sit down and take a test. Spelling bee is individual with immediate elimination and though they show the academic challenge being kind of like that, it isn't really at all. Spelling bees also aren't time (well, within reason).
Either way, in BOTH of those you either know the answer or you don't and you are given ample opportunity to give it. It's a very different kind of pressure and you employ very different strategies. In Academic Challenge, it's not enough to know. You have to be able to very quickly access the correct information and you're competing to be the first to do so by milliseconds. It's a game----the other two are tests.
And to go to the above about throwing the game, on a team everyone knows what each person's specialty is. Depending on what the question was and how you answered (not just what you said, but HOW you said it), there's an excellent chance your teammates would know if you deliberately gave a wrong answer vs. making a careless mistake.
I may switch to an older, less subtle avatar. Ereth remembers it, I think.
i'm with madscientist, except after the talk, i was more confused than ever... it could go either way....
and after reading this thread, i still don't have a clue...
I didn't see any indication of a "Team" in this episode. Alex was on her own, and was disqualified singly. Had she thrown it in a team setting I could see your point.
Also, the math thing I was on WAS a team, and the challenge was solving the math problems faster than the other teams, so it is more analogous to what you describe than what I believe you are saying it was supposed to be like (is that a convoluted sentence or what!). We came in 4th. I was pissed. (To be fair, I had never in my life encountered anybody who could do math faster than me at that point. I had been racing calculators and winning. To come in 4th was totally unexpected).
I'm certain I don't remember. Why don't you PM me a hi-rez version of it, just to refresh my memory?
I didn't see anything that indicated a team either, not saying she wasn't on one, and yeah that would completely change what Alex did, but I thought she was on her own.
The story of a high achieving student purposely failing at something, a class, a test, a recital, whatever, to prove to their parent that it's their life, is a classic device and it's what I thought they were doing.
I'd have to go back and rewatch the episode, but I thought it showed them checking in as a team and the setup was multiple kids at a table with buzzers. Like I said, they clearly fudged it as there's no event like that where you are immediately tossed out after a wrong answer. I think they were purposefully vague at how it worked so that they wouldn't have to bog down the episode explaining what the heck was going on and wouldn't have to introduce other characters. But I've never seen an Academic Challenge-type contest that was purely individual.
I checked with my son on Math Olympiad. He says there's an individual test with a time limit and a team test with a time limit. Total score is a certain number of points for each correct answer on the team test plus a certain number of points for each correct answer on each individual test. He has no idea how they do tiebreakers if you have a situation where both teams get a perfect score on the team test AND the individuals all get the same score.
He came in 1st place individual in the city-wide competition his team was in and was elated and then we learned that a good friend came in 1st in the national competition for high school students at the age of ten. There is ALWAYS a bigger fish.
Alex vocalizing the answers to questions after her disqualification immediately reminded me of Ralph Kramden after he blew Swanee River. Frustration and disappointment of having missed an early, easy question triggers the impulse to show that you really do know your stuff. Never crossed my mind that she might have thrown the contest. Complaining about mom buying the two-day cushion is just a way for her to vent further.
Martin: Boy, I've had it with you guys. If you were Hoss and Little Joe, Ben Cartwright would kick your sorry butts right off the Ponderosa.
Frasier: Dad. Dad, we're sorry.
Niles: Very sorry.
Frasier: He's back on the Cartwrights again. You know, some day we really should ask him just who the hell they are?
just watched this again for wife who didn't see this episode.
alex totally didn't throw the question… she says it was embarassing enough to get it wrong, but the woo-hoo was over the top.
I watched it again tonight and caught a comment at the very end of the scene where she and Claire are talking. She is answering them under her breathe, and the people on stage are getting them wrong. Anyway, I can't remember the exact words, but the last line was about Claire not giving up the seat cushion and it would be great for the water slide.
This makes me wonder if there was a scene cut, of them on the slide. It just seems like they ended that segment too early to not have one more shot of the two of them as they did the others.
Maybe they did shoot the scene, but decided that showing a skeleton on a water slide might be too scary for any kids watching.
Okay - I do feel bad about that one.
HAHAHA - that made me laugh out loud.
Took me awhile...but I finally got it....