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Moca solution recommended/supported by Tivo?

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by atomarchio, May 16, 2012.

  1. atomarchio

    atomarchio Member

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    After experiencing issues with slow MRS on my Premieres with Wireless N adapter, I have decided to purchase the Moca Coax-Ethernet solution.

    Just based on what I've read here and realizing wireless is not going to work to my satisfaction.

    Is there a particular brand/model recommended for Premiere? I do have an Amplifier in my setup from Time Warner Cable because of high number of cable TV connections in my home. I also have a DLINK DIR-655 router with Digital Cable/Home Telephone bundle.

    If there's a particular brand/model you could suggest it would be helpful.

    Please let me know. Thanks.
     
  2. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Well TiVo is selling an Actiontec MoCA bridge @tivo.com so that would be a safe bet (and I'm sure you could buy the same model elsewhere cheaper):
    https://www3.tivo.com/store/accessories-networking.do#ECB2500C
    But like 802.11* stuff there are specific standards to be followed so pretty much any model should work. I've been using discontinued Moto NIM100 units purchased from Ebay for years without issue (though they are bridging each other not communicating with Elite/XL4).
     
  3. atomarchio

    atomarchio Member

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    Just called Tivo, they said I have to purchase a MOCA service from Time Warner and have them install. Is that correct?

    Can someone help me understand what needs to be done with Time Warner before the equipment arrives?

    And do I need 1 or 2 of these adapters?

    Please help. Thanks.
     
  4. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    No, that's bull you don't need cable company to get involved. Setup depends on exactly what you want to do and what TiVo units you have that you want to network together. For example Elite/XL4 has built in MoCA capability where Regular or XL Premiere units do not. So you will need to supply more details about your setup. Also important to know is if 1 of your Premiere unit resides beside your router or not.

    In my example I have 1 Premiere upstairs in office right next to a router, 1 Premiere in Living Room and 1 S3 OLED unit in a bedroom and a total of 3 MoCA units bridging them all together. 1 MoCA unit has to connect to your router.
     
  5. atomarchio

    atomarchio Member

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    I have a DIR655 router in basement with Cable Modem from Time Warner. Then I have a Tivo Premiere XL in bedroom.

    So the Premiere unit is not in the same room as router. So I would need to purchase one of the MOCA adapters and place by router with second unit in the bedroom by the Premiere, right?

    Is there anything else I need to know or add't equipment to purchase?
     
  6. RoanokeHokie

    RoanokeHokie 1 of the "Lucky" 200

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    I think you should also purchase and install a MoCA Point of Entry (PoE) Filter where the cable drop first enters your home. Without installing a filter, it's possible that other subscribers on your node (e.g. your neighbors) could also pick up your MoCA signal & gain access to your network.
     
  7. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Correct, 2 units bridging together is all you need. As mentioned above a POE filter would be an optional thing to add as well though it is not required (I don't have one but I have an 8-way amplified splitter at POE which effectively kills return path to outside anyway). But it's cheap enough where you can throw one in the cart from wherever you buy your MoCA units from.
     
  8. BlackBetty

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    Go MoCA!!! You will love it. My MRS and transfers are crazy fast.
     
  9. news4me2

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    If you need to hook up more networked devices than your TiVo in each remote room, you can use this Channel Master 4 Port Moca Device:

    http://www.channelmaster.com/CM6004_4Port_Coax_Adapter_s/285.htm

    It's about $100 on Amazon or directly from Channel Master.

    I have been using one of these along with a couple of NetGear Moca devices non-stop for the last 4 months without flaw...
     
  10. atomarchio

    atomarchio Member

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    The only question for me at this point is whether I should purchase NetGear or ActionTec Moca's solution.

    Does anyone has comments/preferences between these two? Anything in particular I should pay attention to when comparing?
     
  11. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    Or you could just buy this for less than $15 shipped.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/Verizon-Fio...10879557017?pt=PCC_Modems&hash=item19d0efc599

    I bought several of these for my house and they work perfectly. You can connect multiple devices and you can use them as a wireless access point if you need to.
     
  12. compnurd

    compnurd New Member

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    There should be a notation with these... You will need at least some knowledge of networking as you are turning this router into a MOCA bridge.. Not that this is hard to do but it is not just plug and play

    And they have not been going with everything included for less then 15 dollars on ebay for quite awhile. They will still run about 25-35 bucks with power adaptor and antenna included
     
  13. aadam101

    aadam101 Tell me a joke

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    The instructions are online and are VERY simple. You don't need any knowledge of networking. You just need the ability to follow simple instructions.

    Most people don't even know what MoCa is. People who do know should be able to handle the instructions.
     
  14. BigJimOutlaw

    BigJimOutlaw Active Member

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    If it hasn't been mentioned, the amp's placement should come before the point of entry splitter, as it most likely won't pass the moca signal through it.
     
  15. DonaldBurns65144

    DonaldBurns65144 New Member

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    True, but only if you don't have Verizon FIOS. FIOS network router also does MOCA and so you don't need a MOCA adapter with it.
     
  16. fyodor

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    Here are the instructions in case the OP wants to decide. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1145636

    Regarding connecting multiple devices, you can also get a pair of dedicated bridges and plug one into a switch. Then anything connected to the switch will automatically have access to the coax network.
     
  17. dcstager

    dcstager 1st Gen Tivo Owner

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    I have the Netgear and it works better than anything I've ever used. Just dive into this people because it really works. MoCA is an awesome solution.
     
  18. Arcady

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    I agree about the Netgear MoCA boxes. So much better than WiFi (even N) and I can even use the Elite as a bridge to connect a PS3, BluRay Player, another TiVo (HD) and a PC. This leaves my wireless network for things that really need it, like laptops and phone.
     
  19. MichaelK

    MichaelK New Member

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    I bought the POE filter- seemed like cheap insurance to be sure- but seems to me you can enable a pin/password for moca and then you don't even need that? I've read it helps keep the signal stronger but I'm not even sure if that's true either?

    Aside from TiVo it doesn't seem anyone besides a couple oddball sellers even bother selling them. If netgear doesn't sell them, include them in the boxes, or recommend them then are they really needed?
     
  20. L David Matheny

    L David Matheny Active Member

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    Belt + suspenders = better protection. And a hardware solution is generally better than a software solution.
     

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