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MOCA and POE Filter

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by dave13077, Mar 3, 2013.

MOCA and POE Filter

  1. Yes there is a POE filter installed

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  2. No there is not a POE filter installed

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  1. Bigg

    Bigg Active Member

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    Depends on the climate and what you're building on.
     
  2. Leon WIlkinson

    Leon WIlkinson TiVo Gone Wild

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    I just had a POE installed by the cable company after reading this thread and another. Glad I called them cause they upgraded my modem to a docsis 3

    I had one Mcard installed for $3.95 which gives me Free HD channels of about 92% of my current package and gives me around 14 new Digital /HD channels including secondary Broadcast channels. If the Mcard has no issues
    I will add more to other boxes, after I upgrade my Hard drive in my TiVo with the card Paired and need it re-paired the tech said I should be able to swab card from one device without the need to pair it

    The Card install took 5 min total to pair without issue.
     
  3. leiff

    leiff Member

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    thanks for suggesting I place Poe in the Comcast box on the outside of my house instead of under house. Much easier. Bonus if as you say performance is also better this way. Comcast box opened up no prob. In box the single cable couples with another single cable and leaves box again as a single cable. Coupler inside box wouldn't turn from turning. Does coupler in box need to be unscrewed to remove or do I just get a wrench to turn harder?
     
  4. Loach

    Loach New Member

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    It was probably tightened with a wrench, so you'll probably need a wrench to loosen it.
     
  5. Bigg

    Bigg Active Member

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    Yeah, sometimes you need two slipjaws pliers.
     
  6. dmk1974

    dmk1974 DA BEARS!!!

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    I do not have a MoCA filter installed yet, but am thinking of ordering one. I did turn on the MoCA encryption when I set up my TiVo 4-tuner and TiVo Mini. Is that just as sufficient or completely different than what a MoCA filter would do at my PoE to my house?
     
  7. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    Does the encryption slow down the data throughput?
     
  8. dmk1974

    dmk1974 DA BEARS!!!

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    How do I test for the speed on the TiVo? The only devices I have connected via MoCA are the 4-tuner TiVo (which is also ethernet) and the TiVo Mini. Everything else in my house is ethernet or wireless-N.
     
  9. Stormspace

    Stormspace Electrocuted by TiVo

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    Thx. I saw POE and instantly thought of Power Over Ethernet and wondered if you could send power over coax using a filter.
     
  10. John Thomason

    John Thomason New Member

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    I am confused about where to place the POE filter based upon conflicting information about potential interference with a cable modem. Should the POE filter go at the 2-way splitter or the 4-way splitter? Here is a diagram if my cable setup.

    ---------Cable Modem (non moca)
    /
    2-way splitter
    |
    \---------4-Way Splitter
    Room 1 (moca)
    Room 2 (moca)
    Room 3
    Room 4
     
  11. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    In your case I would put it on the output side of the 2-way splitter that goes toward the rooms. That way you block the MoCa signal from getting to your cable modem and the outside world all in one shot.
     
  12. dmk1974

    dmk1974 DA BEARS!!!

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    Where's the best place to buy one of these? Through TiVo, with shipping, it's like $18.
     
  13. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I bought one off eBay for $5 shipped.
     
  14. dmk1974

    dmk1974 DA BEARS!!!

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  15. Bigg

    Bigg Active Member

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    John, it really doesn't matter. MoCA is fine with a cable modem, but keeping the signal captive to a small area is probably the best for the MoCA's sake.
     
  16. dmk1974

    dmk1974 DA BEARS!!!

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    I got my MoCA filter. Here's a diagram of my wiring in the house (the coax and ethernet). Am I supposed to connect this outside in-line at the junction highlighted in yellow? Thanks!
     

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  17. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    You could put the POE filter in the yellow part of your diagram, but it would just as good to put the filter on the input of the first splitter, I would change splitters to the 2Ghz type as they are not much money and do a better job with Moca.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001X3MGFU/ref=oh_details_o09_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    Or this one works well also http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004JKT3VY/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
     
  18. dmk1974

    dmk1974 DA BEARS!!!

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    Thanks. My splitter is in the wall and the extra length of the PoE filter made it tough to put there. I wound up installing it outside. Any way to check that it's doing what it should? I don't notice any speedtest drop or TV picture quality issues, so I'm assuming it's connected well.
     

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  19. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    Looks good to me, the only way I know to test the filter is to put it on the cable input of a TP-4 or Mini and see that the Moca connection can't be made, that is the way I tested my filter before mounting on my cable input.
     

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