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MOCA and POE Filter

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by dave13077, Mar 3, 2013.

MOCA and POE Filter

  1. Yes there is a POE filter installed

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  2. No there is not a POE filter installed

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  1. Mar 3, 2013 #1 of 70
    dave13077

    dave13077 Member

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    If you are using MOCA have you installed (or had someone else install) a POE filter?
     
  2. Mar 3, 2013 #2 of 70
    dianebrat

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    You need to install it,
    We did Dad's install with MoCA and his neighbors were getting leak through and some issues, we installed the POE filter and all was fine.

    So while he was ok, he was affecting others.
     
  3. Mar 3, 2013 #3 of 70
    aaronwt

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    No need to install a filter on FiOS. Well at least with a normal FiOS setup where each dwelling has their own Optical Network Terminal.
     
  4. Mar 3, 2013 #4 of 70
    Dan203

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    I installed one mainly as a security precaution. The cheaper Actiontech MOCA adapters don't support encryption and I didn't want a savvy neighbor kid hacking my network because of a problem I could fix with a $4 filter. It's not quite as risky as running an open Wifi network, but if you're security conscience at all then why not pick one up?
     
  5. Mar 3, 2013 #5 of 70
    geekmedic

    geekmedic TiVo Fanatic TCF Club

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    If you set a password with Actiontec's config app then it will encrypt things.
     
  6. Mar 3, 2013 #6 of 70
    dianebrat

    dianebrat I refuse to accept your reality TCF Club

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    oops, never thought to mention that, but yes I was referring to a cable installation.
     
  7. Mar 3, 2013 #7 of 70
    dhoward

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    Can anyone recommend a site to purchase a poe filter. Tivo sells them but their shipping is as much as the filter. There must be somewhere else to buy this item. I am looking at ebay but want to know if their is somewhere else to buy this item.
     
  8. Mar 3, 2013 #8 of 70
    Kerwin51580

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    I bought mine from ebay for $8.25 with free shipping. I had my MoCA network up and running about two weeks before I got the filter. I encrypted the connection like others have done. I was getting Tx/Rx rates of about 150 Mbps or so, when I installed the POE filter, my Tx/Rx rates shot up to 238 Mbps

     
  9. Mar 3, 2013 #9 of 70
    dhoward

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    How do you encrypt when using the P4 as a bridge. I want to set this in conjunction with a mini. No adapter being used.
     
  10. moyekj

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    There may well be a POE filter in the box on the street, but there is none at the drop of my house so AFAIK there is no POE filter but no easy way to tell for sure. I've had MoCA for years without any problems.
     
  11. Dan203

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    I could be wrong, but I think that only works with the more expensive adapter that has the config switch. The cheaper ones have no interface that I'm aware of.
     
  12. CoxInPHX

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    Your Cable provider should be very happy to give one to you. I know Cox does.
     
  13. dhoward

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    I ordered one off of ebay this morning.
     
  14. geekmedic

    geekmedic TiVo Fanatic TCF Club

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    Didn't realize they add two. Sorry. Mine has the config switch. Didn't encrypt things because I was afraid it would slow things down and the TiVo wouldn't be compatible with it (when I ordered the mini and XL4 to replace my original premiere.)
     
  15. leiff

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    where do I install Poe? I'm just moved into my new house. The cable guy wired my house 4 days ago. I asked the installer at the time if he knew about moca and he said no. cable enters my house from a Comcast box on the outside wall of my house. From the box a single cable goes through my wall and under my house where it branches off and feeds my four rooms. Does that mean I need to go under my house and locate the original cable originating from the Comcast box and place filter right before it begins to branching to my other rooms? Or might I have to open the Comcast box to install filter?
     
  16. BigJimOutlaw

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    Yes, you want the POE filter on the input side of the main splitter. That can be in the box or under the house if you're willing to get dirty.

    coax to house ---> POE filter --> splitter to rooms.
     
  17. Loach

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    I would put it in the Comcast box that's on the outside wall of your house, assuming you can get into it. But yes, crawling under the house and installing it at the splitter input there would work too.
     
  18. Bigg

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    Or if you're in the northeast, walk into the basement, turn the lights on, and connect it to the cable splitter next to the breaker panel. :)
     
  19. Loach

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    That's what I did here in the Midwest :up:

    Guess not everyone is so fortunate....
     
  20. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    Basements are very rare over here on the west coast. I've only known a few people in my life who've had them. Almost everyone I know who lives out east has one. Not sure why it's regional like that.
     

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