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Mini's sleep mode

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by NSPhillips, Mar 21, 2013.

  1. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    But in my case, with one of my Minis, I still need it playing the content when I turn the TV off. I have a stand alone DVD burner in that room, and I will put the Lifetime movies I record for my girlfriend on disc. So when I do that I will turn off the TV after I start the recording. When I had a Premiere in the room I had no issue, but with the Mini, I need to make sure I go into the room and hit the info button so it doesn't time out. Well I've never tested it to see if it will time out, but from what I've read it should timeout after 90 minutes. I wish it was adjustable, that way I would make the timeout 180 minutes in that room. While the mini in my other room I would make the timeout only 15 or 20 minutes.

    Or does the Mini still timeout when playing back a previously recorded show? If not, then I don't need to worry about it any more?
     
  2. Jeremy5

    Jeremy5 New Member

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    I scripted a telnet command to send IRCODE CC_OFF every 60 minutes to both of my minis. They haven't went to sleep in about a week now.

    I sure hope Tivo gives us some control over this setting, but for now this is working.
     
  3. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    That would work as long as you place your Mini onto the menu when you are done. Otherwise you are permanently allocating a tuner to your Mini.

    I would rather see HDMI CEC control enabled. With CEC control the Mini will know that the TV is on and receiving a signal from the Mini.

    If it is off, it can release the tuner immediately, if it is on then I keeps it forever.

    Older receivers and TV's may not support the CEC communication, but this is exactly what it was designed for.
     
  4. jmpage2

    jmpage2 New Member

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    I think that some people would be okay with permanent allocation of a tuner to a Mini... the problem is, many more who would NOT be okay with it would turn the setting for timeout to "never" anyway, then complain that a tuner was unavailable for recording.
     
  5. lessd

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    With six tuners permanently allocating of one tuner is not so bad for many people, my wife keeps the TV on in the kitchen most of the day when she is home, Mini not going to work, she also likes the bedroom TV on all night, Mini not going to work for that, so I have only one place to use a Mini, in my wife's dressing table/bathroom as she never spends more than 90 min in there without using the remote.
     
  6. Jeremy5

    Jeremy5 New Member

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    Which is exactly my intention. ;)
     
  7. bradleys

    bradleys It'll be fine....

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    Then it sounds like Jeremy's simple solution is a good one - if you have an always on PC or server. I do and it sounds like Jeremy does - but, I suspect most don't.


    Just as a thought exercise, I wonder how hard it would be to setup a Raspberry Pi to do that kind of duty...
     
  8. Loach

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    I'm fairly certain the Mini only times out during live TV - not during playback of a recorded show.

    The 90-minute timeout would be a lot less annoying to me if it would treat non-Tivo IR commands as a "reset". For example, I'm always fiddling with the volume, but that doesn't reset the timeout. Last night watching the Cardinals game I had to remind myself to toggle the guide button periodically so it didn't time out at an exciting point in the game.
     
  9. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    I think you get a screen warning before the Mini goes to sleep.
     
  10. Loach

    Loach New Member

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    Yes, true. But when you clear the warning the screen blanks out for a couple seconds and when it returns it seems to be a couple seconds behind live TV. I have to hit the skip button to catch back up to live TV. Very annoying during live sports.
     
  11. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    It's always going to be behind something live since it is written to the hard drive and then read off of it before you view it. And this is after any delay introduced by the broadcaster or cable provider.
     
  12. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    How are you clearing the warning ??
     
  13. TC25D

    TC25D New Member

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    All these use cases indicate TiVo should simply give us the option to make the Timeout = 0, i.e., never timeout.

    Sadly, the vitriolic posts, e.g., calling the current situation 'ridiculous' and accusing TiVo of some kind of ill intent are childish.
     
  14. slowbiscuit

    slowbiscuit FUBAR

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    You're reading WAY more into what people are posting than what I see, they're just frustrated (with good reason) that Tivo has once again decided for the user what they think everyone should have. Nobody here is accusing Tivo of maliciously doing this.

    Lack of configurability for basic options like this (frex, the live TV buffer length) is one of my biggest beefs w/Tivo.
     
  15. Loach

    Loach New Member

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    By pressing the Select button in response to the "Still there?" message.
     
  16. Loach

    Loach New Member

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    Yeah that recently dawned on me while on the phone with my brother during an NLCS game. He was watching on a Cox HD cable box and clearly was seeing the action before I was on my Mini.
     
  17. jaredmwright

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    Jeremy, do you mind sharing your script with those of us here? I wouldn't mind trying this out as I am considering rolling out Minis to replace my Premieres.
     
  18. pillpusher84

    pillpusher84 New Member

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    yes, please share ... I would also like to test out
     
  19. 172pilot

    172pilot New Member

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    That is a great idea.. I'm going to do that too.. I basically know what times I DONT want the mini to turn off, so I can schedule a task to just run during those times.. I had envisioned an arduino with an IR diode doing the same thing, but network based is easier and more reliable.. Thanks!
     
  20. cmaquilino16

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    I got the message are you still there this morning tuning on tv, I only have one mini connected to office tv with Ethernet, from a roamio pro. You'll I get the press live tv or the channel I was last watching. So should I hit the TiVo button then turn off tv. Also changing channels takes about two to four second to change is this something with TiVo mini.
     

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