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Mini, Premiere 4, and the old HD Tivo

Discussion in 'TiVo Help Center' started by Huncowboy, Nov 26, 2013.

  1. Huncowboy

    Huncowboy New Member

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    I had the Mini and the Premiere 4 hooked up via a MOCA adapter. It worked fine. I love the Mini by the way.

    I was going to cancel my old HD TIVO. But the rep talked me into a cheap plan. So I ordered another cable card from comcast, and got a cable splitter and hooked up the old Tivo. It is on the same cable outlet where the MOCA is hooked up. Unfortunately now the mini is not working anymore, and I am also not getting HD channels on the old Tivo.

    Is this setup even possible? I know the old HD Tivo is not compatible with the Mini, so I guess by hooking it up I disturbed the setup. Am I right? If so, is there any way to use this old Tivo?

    Thank you!
     
  2. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    I hope that cheap plan on the HD was lifetime for no more than $99, otherwise you didn't get their best deal.
     
  3. windracer

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    What kind of splitter did you use? It sounds like it's filtering out the MoCA signal which is preventing your Mini from seeing the Premiere. Make sure your splitter passes at least up to the 2.4GHz range. If the splitter only goes up to 900MHz, the MoCA signal won't make it through.
     
  4. Huncowboy

    Huncowboy New Member

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    I did not know that but it looks like I got a 2.4g splitter. It is an RCA DH24SPF Two Way 2.4 Ghz Bi-Di Splitter.

    So do you think the setup should still work?

    By the way, here is my exact setup, if it helps the gurus here.

    TV Premier on one outlet.
    Mini on another outlet.
    Third outlet has a splitter. One side goes to the MOCA, which in turn feeds the Wifi Router for the internet. The other side goes to the old TIVO HD.

    … and no I did not get the lifetime. I don't care for those although $99 sounds good. I got a month to month for $6 or so.
     
  5. windracer

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    That setup (with the splitter) should work. I guess the obvious way to test is to remove the splitter and connect the coax from the wall directly to each device one and a time and see if

    a) the Mini can see the Premiere again and
    b) the HD TiVo can receive the missing HD channels

    If that works, it's possible the splitter is bad or degrading the signal strength enough to cause problems (perhaps there are other splitters elsewhere in the path?). Do you have another splitter you can use? I always use the "satellite" ones which pass up to 5GHz just to be safe.
     
  6. Huncowboy

    Huncowboy New Member

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    I will do that in a few hours and report back. Thanks for your time!
     
  7. Huncowboy

    Huncowboy New Member

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    I have tried a lot of plugging in and unplugging. Also a tech was here for the internet. He replaced a few splitters and measured the signal. He said it is good now, but it was weak before. He did not look at the TVs though as he was an internet tech.

    Anyways, the good news is it seems the setup is valid. The Premiere and the Mini works fine, and now the old HD Tivo works as well except for the HD channels.

    I tried to plug in the HD alone, but the result is the same. I also did a guided setup on it just to make sure. So I am not sure what it is. I do recall that I had to wait a few hours for my HD channels to kick in on our Premiere as well just recently, after an outage.
     
  8. windracer

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    Glad to hear it's working with the splitter. Have you checked the CableCARD status on the TiVo HD to confirm it's still authorized? Maybe your cable company needs to re-pair it.
     
  9. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    With lifetime it has more resale value than an unsubcribed one + $100.
     
  10. Huncowboy

    Huncowboy New Member

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    That is a very good point. I did not think of that at all.
     
  11. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    And you were kind enough not to point out that I mis-spelled "unsubscribed". :)
     
  12. Huncowboy

    Huncowboy New Member

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    LOL.

    Just to close the thread, all is working now. I chatted with comcast and they did some adjustments to the account and now I am getting all the channels.

    Thanks for all the help guys!
     

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