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Mini and Roamio DTA observations

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by moyekj, Sep 1, 2013.

  1. wmhjr

    wmhjr Well-Known Member

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    Which again, means "partially" dynamic. If you need to go to the Roamio to put something in the foreground in order to then go to the mini to use a tuner, it's hardly "dynamic". It's somewhat dynamic.

    To be honest, it makes me now wonder if I even want this to come to the Premiere. It could actually make my situation worse. At least now I have predictability in that I know how many tuners are available on each location, and I know that "scheduled" recordings or live viewing will always take priority over "suggestions" - without having to go from room to room. The way Tivo seems to have implemented DTA, I'll need to either disable "suggestions" altogether or do the manual thing - which frankly could be a real problem. Keep in mind that perhaps I'm in bed watching something on a premiere and my son or somebody else wants to watch live on the mini, but then they need to come bother me to free up a tuner?

    I honestly didn't really think Tivo would make things worse, but this sure seems worse to me. Maybe I'm not understanding it correctly. However, I have to say, the current track record is that Tivo implements some very questionable (to say the least) use cases.
     
  2. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    I set up a 5 Mini and Roamio + system, with no recording being done on the Roamio + I could tune the 5 Minis to 5 different stations, with 5 recordings taking place on the Roamio no Mini could get to live TV. Just saying.
     
  3. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    I thought I had read that somewhere. I've never actually tried it so I could very well be wrong. But it does make sense that the TiVo would want to keep at least 1 live tuner for itself.
     
  4. Dan203

    Dan203 Super Moderator Staff Member TCF Club

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    The suggestion thing seems like a bug, so hopefully they are working on a fix for that. Other then that it works pretty much as you'd expect.
     
  5. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Read the start of this thread. That's expected behavior under normal conditions. With 5 recordings on Roamio if you bring one of the ongoing recordings to the foreground tuner then that frees up the last tuner for the Mini. But that means you have to go over to the host Roamio to do that which is not "dynamic". So under normal conditions you need 2 free tuners on the host to get live TV on the Mini.
     
  6. wmhjr

    wmhjr Well-Known Member

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    Which means, if released in the same fashion on the Premiere, it effectively further cripples an XL4. I wonder if you can effectively "opt out" of DTA? Honestly, at this point it would be a disadvantage on an XL4.
     
  7. moyekj

    moyekj Well-Known Member

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    Depends on your perspective. To me the most important thing is that there are sufficient tuners on the host unit to record everything I want. To that end when my Elite was host I set it to allocate 0 tuners for the Mini so I could never get live TV on it. With DTA implementation at least there are times when you can get live TV on Mini without sacrificing a tuner 100% of the time.

    If live TV on the Mini is so important to you then perhaps you should consider getting a 6 tuner Roamio to use as host instead, or use a cheap 2 tuner Premiere in place of a Mini.
     

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