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MFStools Boot CD - LBA48 Boot Disk for ALL TiVo Models

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by tivoupgrade, Oct 4, 2004.

  1. sully10128

    sully10128 New Member

    Feb 21, 2005
    I currently have a 160GB A drive and a 60GB B drive in a TiVo Series 2 TCD140060. I upgraded about a year ago, restoring my backup onto the 160GB drive and adding the original 60GB drive as drive B.

    I've read that the TivoToGo version of the OS (7.1?) will support LBA addressing. I have 7.1 installed now - is there a simple way to realize the full 160GB of my drive A, now that an LBA48 kernel is in place?
  2. djtravis

    djtravis New Member

    Jan 23, 2003
    Lockport, IL
    I am using the current PTVupgrade iso image burned onto a CD.
    What I have run into trying to replace my 120g drive with a 300g drive in my SA TiVo TCD240080 with 7.1 software.

    hda – Primary master = DOS
    hdb – Primary slave = New bigger (300g) drive
    hdc – Secondary master = Current TiVo (120g) drive
    hdd – Secondary slave = CD

    mkdir /mnt/dos
    mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos

    Make backup:
    mfsbackup –f4138 –6so /mnt/dos/tivo.bak /dev/hdc
    This created an 207mb file on the DOS disk.

    Restore to 300g drive w/o programs:
    mfsrestore –s 127 –bzpi /mnt/dos/tivo.bak /dev/hdb
    Put 300g drive in TiVo & it booted fine & reported 86 hours.

    Restore to 300g drive w/o programs & expand to full capacity:
    mfsrestore –s 127 –xzpi /mnt/dos/tivo.bak /dev/hdb
    Put 300g drive in TiVo & it booted fine & reported 340 hours.

    Copy programs from 120g to 300g:
    mfsbackup –Tao - /dev/hdc | mfsrestore –s 127 –xzpi - /dev/hdb
    Scanning source. Please wait.
    Source drive size is 79 hours
    - upgraded to 127 hours
    Uncompressed backup size: 113979 megabytes
    Restore failed: Backup target not large enough for entire backup by itself.

    Try dd copy:
    dd if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdb bs=1024k
    after 30 minutes get the following error & copy stops:
    dd: reading ‘/dev/hdc’: Input/output error
    40829+2 records in
    40829+2 records out

    As stated in the instructions, I then tried the following:
    dd conv=noerror,sync if=/dev/hdc of=/dev/hdb bs=1024k
    Same errors as above, but kept copying. Finished after 1 hr 45 min.

    Put in TiVo & get "Welcome. Powering up…" for 1 min 15 sec.
    Then "Almost There" for 25 sec.
    Then green screen with some error & statement to leave things alone for 3 hours.
    Then back to "Welcome. Powering up…"

    I have 2 hours more to wait. I have no indication that anything is happening inside that box, but I'll play along for the next 2 hours! After that, I'll go back to the restore/expand without saving programs, put the drive in the TiVo & see how long it'll work.

    Does anyone have any ideas why the copy programs didn't work?
  3. Mar 9, 2005 #143 of 572

    wwli7p New Member

    Mar 8, 2005
    Does any linux users out there have a PTVupgrade TiVo Upgrade CD with LBA48 support for Series1 cd that I could get the programs off and sent to me in a gzipped file, minus mfstools.

  4. FredericLS

    FredericLS New Member

    Feb 17, 2002
    I have a DSR6000 that contains two upgraded drives from 2 years ago. I now would like to use two new 250 drives. I expect to replace the kernel, of course. When I did my upgrade before, I booted off the floppy so I could do two disks in and two disks out with backup | restore to keep my recordings. I would like to do this method again, but the only floppy I seem to find does not have LBA48 support which I believe is necessary to fully use the drives. The second message posted to this thread asked about this but was never replied to as I could find. I will then boot off the your LBA48 CD to complete the process of replacing the kernel and other enhancements (actually have universal 10 CD). Is there an LBA48 kernel floppy like the Tiger floppy with mfstools or a way of making one from your CD?

    Second question may not be correctly addressed in this thread, but I will ask it anyway. If I buy Cake and setup the two new drives, is there a way to backup old recordings and restore them onto the new cake drives?

  5. tivoupgrade

    tivoupgrade Sponsor

    Sep 27, 2000
    Chicago, IL...
    You are going to have a lot of work ahead of you if you want to keep your old recordings. First of all, there is no lba48 floppy that I'm aware of, but more importantly, you may have run out of partitions and may very well have a problem expanding the drive set (keep digging on these forums as there another thread that discusses this -- check the LBA48 thread in the underground).

    One way to work around not having and LBA48 floppy (I've been thinking about whipping one out, but I don't think there would be a lot of use for it, relative to some of the other things we are working on), would be just to use DD to copy each of your two drives to each of the two new target drives. You could do this by booting off the CD and only connecting two drives at a time. Then go ahead and do your mfsadd on the new drives AFTER you are done.

    As for your last question... InstantCake creates brand new replacement drives; we are working on an extended version that will give you an option to backup your existing drive to a new 'set" but again, you are still subject to the limitations above.

    My recommendation would be to do a backup of your dual-drives, but just your settings and preferences. Yes, you will lose your recordings, but over time, you should be able to recreate your library.
  6. ashu

    ashu User title defunct

    Nov 8, 2002
    I'll second that recommendation, and strongly recommend (feasible only for HMO/MRV-capable TiVos, of course!) owning a second TiVo, and offloading shows to it, upgrading to a blank disk (or disks), and moving shows back if needed.

    Eschew shows you don't care too much about saving, and only back-up the most critical ones! It takes MANY, MANY hours to make a backup and save recordings (14-16 hours for my half-full 80GB DRT800 last month!), although you can argue its still faster than a FULL networked backup/restore! I guess I should at least have deleted some of the Suggestions before I upgraded ;)

    I'm trying to do something similar, but using two TiVos, and would love for ptvupgrade to give a quick glance at my thread and confirm what I'm about to attmept is the right way to go about things: :)
  7. FredericLS

    FredericLS New Member

    Feb 17, 2002
    Thanks for your help and suggestions. It seems to me that if I can not save my recordings, I might as well use InstantCake to start fresh and make full use of the two new drives. I have 65 season passes but no big deal to recreate. Preferences are nice to save to indicate that I have viewed the shows, but since I pick only instead of TiVo, they are not necessary. I am correct that InstantCake will do everything including CacheCard setup and prom CRC check fix? I believe that I get the additional network update capability too? Seems a no brainer unless I am mistaken and missed something else. Thanks again.
  8. tivoupgrade

    tivoupgrade Sponsor

    Sep 27, 2000
    Chicago, IL...
    Yes, that is correct; CacheCard drivers, as well as flashing is taken care of with InstantCake. Note that IC creates the equivalent of a "NetReady" drive; more about that, and how to get telnet and other utils working here (way off-topic now...)

    Thx again.
  9. FredericLS

    FredericLS New Member

    Feb 17, 2002
    Just downloaded. Thanks.
  10. Apr 8, 2005 #150 of 572

    kleckner New Member

    Nov 11, 2003
    I had the same problem...didn't realize I needed to run copykern. I have one old program that fails and I have since run copykern. Is this going to fix it going forward, or do you need to copy to a new drive and run copykern before the system boots in the Tivo?

    FYI, Phillips HD112. Maxtor Quickview 160 replacing a noisy 3 year old Maxtor 160 (that was only using 137GB)
  11. Maruzo

    Maruzo New Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    ok, i've read this entire thread and i'm getting really more puzzled about the exact commands i need for my upgrades. I have a samsung directv dvr (SIR-S4080R) with a wd 80gb original drive with a newly upgraded 6.2 software via directv's sattelite.

    I am looking to install a newer hitachi 250gb as a single drive upgrade.

    Can somebody kindly point me to the correct steps to commence this upgrade?

    thanks very much!

  12. Maruzo

    Maruzo New Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Two questions:

    1. If i successfully upgraded my samsung's original 80gb with the 6.2 software unto a larger 250gb drive, can i then use the same 80 gb to do another upgrade to another 250gb drive, and then install that 2nd 250gb drive into a philips dvr-708?

    I've read somewhere that the motherboards and chipsets on these series 2 directv tivos are all the same regardless of who made these units. Whether samsung or philips all made the same units with the exact same spec.

    So can i do the swap successfully? Has anyone tried it?

    2. i want to retrieve a maxtor 200gb drive that was installed on my philips dvr-708 and reuse it as a regular winxp boot drive. I'm afraid that only i plug in the maxtor into a regular pc, it'll be locked up and be seen as an 8mb drive.

    Is there any steps that i can take to return this maxtor back to it's original state so i can reformat it in ntfs correctly?

    Thanks Very Much!

  13. Maruzo

    Maruzo New Member

    Sep 18, 2003
  14. tsrbff

    tsrbff New Member

    Apr 14, 2005
    Please forgive me if my questions are not applicable to this thread, but I have a couple simple (I think) questions that pertain to the LBA48 stuff and to PTVupgrade.

    I would like clarification on the following, (understanding that I am not talking about trying to keep previous recordings or use/re-use existing hard drive):

    If I buy the InstantCake CD that PTVupgrade sells, and use it with a brand-new drive (or driveS), will it automatically enable the use of greater drive capacities than 137GB if I used say a 160GB drive/drives? On either of the TiVos listed below?

    Is there a limit to how large of a drive it would/could enable (200GB or greater maybe)?

    Are these InstantCake CDs also machine-specific, like one CD for my Philips S1 HDR-212 and a different one for my sister's S2 TiVo TCD 540040?

    Does having this CD substitute for keeping a backup image of the software? I can just go buy a hard drive and re-use the InstantCake?

    Any and all comments from those who know will be greatly appreciated, and please be as specific as you can in regards to the different units I mentioned above. And my profound apologies if this had no business in this thread. Thanks in advance to all who will reply, and God Bless!

    Tracy Faulkner
  15. BobCamp1

    BobCamp1 Well-Known Member

    May 15, 2002

    There are other threads talking about that. I've heard of 400GB. Note that the more space you add the slower your Tivo's menus will operate. After updating my HDR212 to 137GB (I didn't use the Instantcake CD for this upgrade), it takes up to 7 seconds for the "now playing" menu to appear when I hit the Tivo button on the remote. Recording and playback are unaffected.

    The Series 2 stand-alone units now support HDs > 137GB with the 7.0 (or later) software. You can find personalized directions for creating a backup image and restoring it (or transferring everything off the old HD) on http://tivo.upgrade-instructions.com/ . But if you are uncomfortable with Linux or have problems with MFSTools, an InstantCake CD is a good backup plan if things go bad.

    Yes, they are machine specific. You may be able to get away with using an HDR112 CD with an HDR 212, since the only real difference between them is the HD size. But in general the CDs are very specific. You defintely cannot use a Series 1 CD on a Series 2 Tivo or vice versa, or use a stand-alone CD with a DirecTivo.

    Yes, you don't need a backup image.
  16. May 2, 2005 #156 of 572

    ronsch Active Member

    Sep 7, 2001

    I took my shot at using your expansion tools yesterday. I started with a pristine 40gb Quantum Fireball from a DSR6000 and used the PTVUpgrade cd to create a backup and then to do a full copy to my new 250gb WD drive. These seemed to work fine. The long copy took about six hours.

    This morning I tried to finish up with copykern. Everything seemed to go well until it tried to replace the kernel. It made the backup of the existing kernel on /mnt but then failed to copy in the new kernel as it said the file couldn't be found. This seems to match other posts where the cdrom is not properly mounted, although copykern actually ran on my system whereas other posts indicate it wouldn't even run. I only have a single dvd configured as secondary slave. I will try the solution published in this thread when I get home.

    I also agree with some other posters that the documentation provided on the iso makes no mention of the prom flash requirement. Granted there are multiple how-tos elsewhere but this is your how-to on using copykern. It should at least reference specific documentation that describes the other requirements for copykern to work and keep on working. I intend to use the full Jenkins hack procedure on the new drive but am wondering if that should be done before using your process or if it will still work after?

    Ok. Mounted cdrom; copykern ran successfully; restored a copy of my image to a spare drive and also installed Jenkins flash uility; used that drive to flash the prom; installed new big drive and voila; 235 hour DirecTiVo. I'll save the rest of the hacks for this weekend.
  17. May 3, 2005 #157 of 572

    Alessan New Member

    Feb 23, 2002
    how about the new 7.1 upgrade, did that upgrade the kernal so we can go over the 137gb?
  18. May 4, 2005 #158 of 572

    BobCamp1 Well-Known Member

    May 15, 2002
    The 7.1 software contains the kernel to go over 137GB. Since I have a series 1 Tivo, I'll never get that kernel.

    My upgrade has worked using the original kernel and just 137GB of the hard drive.
  19. May 4, 2005 #159 of 572

    Alessan New Member

    Feb 23, 2002
    kool, I have a 160 I want to put in. I'll see how it goes on Friday
  20. lafos

    lafos Active Member

    Nov 7, 2004
    Sioux Falls, SD
    I have two Toshiba SD-H400 systems. Several months ago, I upgraded one of them with a 160 GB drive using V3.01 of the PTVupgrade CD. It worked like a champ. TiVo SW v5.2 then.

    Now I'm trying to upgrade the other to 300GB (my wife's), using v4.01 CD. I want to save the shows, so I'm using the command

    mfsbackup -Tao - /dev/hdd | mfsrestore -s 127 -xzpi - /dev/hdc

    The backup starts, and then stops after copying some of the disk. The percentage keeps inching up; after the 6th try I'm up to 6.8%.

    The computer is the same as the earlier upgrade, a P233MMX with

    hda = win98 FAT32
    hdb = cdrom
    hdc = new TiVo drive
    hdd = original TiVo drive

    The Linux kernel properly recognizes all the drives and their sizes. I've tried with the bios drive detect for the secondary IDE turned to auto or off with no effect.

    Any ideas on how I can get this to complete the backup?

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