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MFStools Boot CD - LBA48 Boot Disk for ALL TiVo Models

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by tivoupgrade, Oct 4, 2004.

  1. milmo12

    milmo12 New Member

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    I tried the new drive that seemed to complete the mfstools process successfully (with byte swapping off) but it is stuck on the "Please wait..." screen. I did try the master/slave jumper in all positions.

    Maybe I'm being too stubborn, but all the instructions I read for my unit, HRD212, on weaknees and hinsdale refer to using a utility called TivoMad (for software at 2.0 or before) to make the new drive useable on my system. Could someone please explain why that is no longer necesssary and how that functionality is supplanted or available in the latest mfstools bootCD? Is there some special command I need to use in addition to the mfsbackup/mfs restore commands?

    Thanks again,
     
  2. tivoupgrade

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    The reason why TiVoMad is no longer necessary because at the time, there was no tool for expanding the partitions on a drive that already had the operating system on it. IE; you could add a drive using "BlessTiVo" however if you used dd to create a new drive by copying your original to a larger one, there was no way to expand the media partitions to use the additional space.

    I do not recall using TiVoMad on standalone units, but I do recall using it on DirecTiVo boxes.

    When MFStools came out, those tools were not required, and the software versions available for TiVo units were later than the ones you are currently running.

    Consider letting your unit update to the latest version of the software (3.0) to at least eliminate that factor as a potential issue. Also consider following whatever guide you are using, to the letter, if you have an expectation of it working. As I said before, I've never paid much attention to the guides because we established our best practices for upgrading units long before either were ever written.

    Lou
     
  3. milmo12

    milmo12 New Member

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    I have no way of letting it update: I don't have a landline and this box doesn't have a network port. I also don't have a subscription. I've followed both guide's instructions to the letter except for the TivoMad instruction. If a subscription isn't necessary for an update is there a way to use a cell?
     
  4. tivoupgrade

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    Not that I know of.

    OK, so here are my final words of advice on this particular issue; there's really not much I an offer because your setup is just completely non-standard.

    1) subscribe to TiVo's service - your box was built with that in mind, and we are supporters of TiVo, so it will always be my recommendation
    2) let your unit update; if you don't have a phone line, plug in a TurboNet card and you can update it over your network
    3) if none of the above, get your hands on TiVoMad and follow whatever those older instructions actually say to do.

    In case 1) or 2), you'll be able to use this CD to do your upgrade. But in 3), you'll probably end up needing a different one...

    Lou
     
  5. David_NC

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    The subscription is not needed for the software update, and the HDR212 should be able to manually record without a subscription.

    I don't know if the early software supports serial PPP, but if you can find a drive image with the later software, the serial line can be used for guided setup.
     
  6. milmo12

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    Thanks to everyone, particularly Tivouprade, who helped me through the ordeal of adding a larger drive on a Series 1 TIVO still running a version of the software at 2.0 or below. I got it working, and the Hinsdale and Weaknees guides are correct for this configuration, you do need the Edit_bootparms utility from the now defunct TivoMAD software to make it work. It can be found on the bootCD called nuboot6.iso still available, as of now, at http://www.cnunix.com/ftp/TiVo/, in the MAD32 directory. It needed to be copied to a floppy, then mounted and run as the very last step.

    For those very few who may want to do an upgrade to an old Tivo with old software (the kind that can be used as a recorder without a subscription) here are a few tips:

    • Use mfstools 2.0 for the basic copying
    • Don't use a computer with any flavor of AMD K6-xxx processor (not wanting to disrupt the main computers in the house I pulled a couple oldies out of storage, big mistake)
    • Turnoff any overclocking on your machine
    • To use the edit_bootparms utility boot the new Tivo drive in byte-swapped mode (but that's not necessary for the basic copy operation)

    I was able to save all my stored programs and now have 46 hours of recording available on highest quality (up from 6!). Once I recover from this experience I may try use the LBA48 kernel to see if I can get the full 160GB out of my drive, but I expect that recovery to take quite some time.
     
  7. tivoupgrade

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    You are "hardcore" to say the least! Glad you got it working.

    Be careful with that lba48 kernel; I'm not certain, but I don't think it will work with that older version of the software. You can read up a bit more about here, as this is the guy who created it...

    Lou
     
  8. Jan 1, 2009 #508 of 572
    milmo12

    milmo12 New Member

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    After a month of R&R following the rigors of upgrading a Series 1 with 1.3 software (e.g., finding long forgotten software utilities, teaching myself basic linux commands, trying 4 different mfstools versions, etc.) I had recovered enough to try using the LBA48 kernel on a new drive with the that old 1.3 software. It worked! My new 160GB disk is now fully utilized and has a 55 hour capacity at Best Quality.

    Thanks again for the help...
     
  9. ciper

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    milmo12 Would you mind giving me a copy of your truncated backup?
     
  10. cappicone

    cappicone New Member

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    This is a lie....The CD is not free. Man i have to spend more money on this machine to make it work!
     
  11. tivoupgrade

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    Welcome to the forums!

    The version discussed in this thread, is free. You may want to spend just a little more time here before accusing me of lying...
     
  12. scoombs

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    Which is appropriate for people who cannot locate the proper download.
     
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    tidal New Member

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    Thanks for the tools tivoupgrade!

    I had a Philips hdr112 that had 2 40gb hard drives die. I popped in the original drive and got it updated to 3.0. Then I started looking at new drives and remember the 2 series 2 that I had that had 250gb drives in them.

    thanks to your copykern my tivo has 654 hours!

    i used the interactive tivo upgrade command and then the copykern. no problems!

    smoothest upgrade ever.

    woohoo!
     
  14. Steve Palo

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    I'm upgrading some old Series 1 standalones to a single big drive
    from a 3.0 HDR112 image that I've used before. I've done this previously
    with MFStools 2.0 mfsrestore followed by copykern.

    I just tried the LBA48 4.04 tools, and the
    "RESTORE -x -s 300 -zpi /mnt/dos/tivo.bak.mfs /dev/hdc" command.
    The restore seemed to go ok, but got a few errors on the COPYKERN:

    "tpip -s -o /mnt/kernel.orig \
    -k /cdrom/s1_kernels/kernel-3.0/vmlinux-3.0.px /dev/hdc
    Are you ready?" y

    /cdrom/s1_kernels/kernel-3.0/vmlinux-3.0.px.gz : No such file or directory
    writing 1058304 bytes to '/mnt/kernel.orig'
    tpip: unknown boot block signature: 0xdbldfac2
    Kernel updated!

    Any ideas what the problem is on the COPYKERN? Does it really look like
    my CDrom is missing the appropriate kernel file?
     
  15. tivoupgrade

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    Looks like your CDROM may not be mounted. Its been awhile since I looked at the boot sequence for it, but I think there is an attempt to automount the CDROM when it starts up so that you can access those files.

    If it didn't work, then you will get the "no such file or directory" error until you properly mount it with a command like:

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    mount /dev/hdb /cdrom
    
    or something similar.

    The 2nd part of the error may be an indication that your mfsrestore didn't work. Try rebooting, or doing a

    Code:
    tivopart r /dev/hdc
    
    to refresh the partition table after doing a restore and then try running CopyKern again (after verifying that the CD device is mounted properly).
     
  16. Steve Palo

    Steve Palo New Member

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    Thanks very much. The mount /dev/hdd /cdrom got the copykern to work correctly. The "tivopart" resulted in an "unknown command" message. Disk still won't boot my Tivo, though. Hangs at "wait a moment..." message.

    Now, do you know how to look at the kernel logs when a tivo disk is connected up to a pc? I don't know the proper mount command needed in order to see what is on the disk.
     
  17. MontyL

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    Some laughing may be involved here, but not from my side of the screen:

    Just purchased, downloaded and burned the LBA48 4.04 ISO with killhdinitrd'd kernels included (per the descriptive) after having selected my unit from the pulldown lists. SW-LBA48-DL-101 (matches my service number, so I'm certain I picked the correct one).

    Just to be concise, the Philips DSR7000 I chose from the pulldown lists is a Series 2 unit, currently sporting an untouched 6.4a software load.

    Imagine my surprise when the $5 purchase I made seems to have the S2 kernels but the "copykern" script doesn't have any S2 choices...

    Do I a) gripe to DVRUpgrade that I ended up with something other than what I ordered or b) figure out which of the 4 S2 kernels is the one I need and dd the darned thing into /dev/hda3 and 6 or c) find out that the only way I can continue is to buy the $20 InstantCake ISO?
     
  18. tivoupgrade

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    The big question is why you would need ANY of those things (or consider option a in the first place).

    CopyKern and killhdinitrd kernels have nothing to do with one another; never have and never will.

    Please take a look at the very first post of this thread which talks about the specifics of the FREE CD and why you would want to consider CopyKern in the first place. As for the $5 CD, it does contain the Series2 killhdinitrd kernels, but if all you are looking to do is have an expanded drive with 6.4a on it, you don't need to use a killhdinitrd kernel, lba48 or otherwise...
     
  19. MontyL

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    Lou,

    I'd like to network said DSR7000 with the DSR704 and the PCs in the house. I'd like to take advantage of TiVoWebPlus' conflict resolution to have the two machines share the load when 3 shows conflict. I'd like to give the better half the ability to watch her time-shifted Oprah and Dr. Phil in either location, whether she's on the treadmill or in her easy chair.

    I had success with 6.2a on the DSR7000, but the 704 updated to 6.4a before I'd gathered the courage to start on it. She likes the remote scheduling via directv.com better than my way of logging into TiVoWebPlus, she's accidently deleted enough shows that "recently deleted" was an instant hit, so I'm damned if I try to downgrade it to 6.2....

    The 7000 was networked (even replaced the USB-Ethernet adapter with a completely different device once), had mfs-ftp, vserver, TivoWeb running, all was good. Unfortunately for me, I lost it all; the power supply suffered a catastrophic failure during the same event that crashed the drive, and no backup had ever been made since everything was done via the network while onboard the DirecTiVo.

    The reason I'm looking for killhdinitrd or a kernel is that the "native" usb drivers don't appear to work with the adapters I have, so I'm trying to work with Jamie's backported drivers. hdinitrd (from what I've been able to gather with my scattered brain, correct me if I'm wrong) prevents such replacements.

    The killhdinitrd on the 4.04 ISO gives "fatal: no exploit found for this kernel", none of the 4 S2 kernels work (all panic according to the logs) and just dropping the backported drivers into place results in their disappearance after the DirecTiVo reboots a few times...

    Tell me I'm an idiot, then point out the error of my ways with concise directions. I've had a headache for a week trying to figure this out, and she's starting to get cranky about not having a working television in the bedroom.
     
  20. tivoupgrade

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    Your request is way beyond the scope of this thread, and what you are asking me to do is not trivial. What I'd recommend you do is revisit the methods you used when upgrading your 6.2 system. The same kernels should work for the same reason that our PTVnet software CD's for both 6.2 and 6.4 use the same killhdinitrd kernels, from what I recall, and these kernels are provided on the $5 CD you purchased. There is a lot more to getting USB Ethernet drivers running, however.

    If you are looking to save time then you might want to consider some of the other DIY tools we offer (or a preconfigured kit).

    Lou
     

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