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MFStools Boot CD - LBA48 Boot Disk for ALL TiVo Models

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by tivoupgrade, Oct 4, 2004.

  1. Nov 1, 2007 #461 of 572
    Tekrone

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    Doing it in two steps was what I have already done. Doing that would fully expand the backup (with the 2.5 software), then I would have to let it upgrade to 3.0, then copykern again.

    I'm going to try my other plan to see it if works. Something to do this weekend.
     
  2. Nov 5, 2007 #462 of 572
    Tekrone

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    Eureka! Success! :up:

    It seems to be working, though it gave me a scare.
    I set up a series of 10 hour blocks of recordings to test the TiVo, and was gone when it got to the 40+ hour range (where I thought it might fail). When I got home and checked, it started up with the welcoming animation. That worried me.
    And the point where the reboot occurred was just past 41 hours. Uh-Oh.

    So my first assumption was that the drive had "filled" and for some reason caused it to flip out and reboot. :(

    Apparently, while I was gone there was a power failure. The other TiVo also had rebooted. What a relief.

    Now all the 10 hour blocks up to 50 hours are viewable, so the LBA48 kernal must be working. Yippee! :D

    My feeling is that restoring a 2.5 software backup and using the LBA48 kernal may not be a good idea. At least it didn't seem to work for me.
    Doing an unexpanded restore, letting it update to version 3.0, getting it all updated and stable, and then expanding the space and installing the kernal seems to be the right way to do it.

    I'm going to let the 10 hour block recording go on for a while, to really be certain it works. Then I'll pull the drive and make a nice up-to-date truncated backup. :cool:
     
  3. tivoupgrade

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    That is correct. When you run CopyKern, you should have choices on which kernel to install and for what OS. From my recollection, there is no modified LBA48 kernel for 2.5 (I actually don't even remember the 2.5 version for standalone units); there is only one for the 3.0 version (and then a couple of versions for the DirecTiVo models).

    Lou
     
  4. sskraly

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    I've read through this thread and a bunch of others and can't find a detailed description of the copykern syntax. I understand that it's on the CD, but can someone detail it here for the record? For example, I've seen mention of copykern -s. What does that option do? Also, people have mentioned that if you run copykern, it will prompt you to choose a kernel--what are the options and which one should be chosen?

    Finally, it is correct that mountcd should always be done before running copykern?

    Thanks...
     
  5. tivoupgrade

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    Just type:

    CopyKern

    it is all menu driven.

    Depending upon your PC's configuration, you may need to manually mount the CD; the boot CD does try to do it automatically, but it doesn't work on all PCs.

    Lou
     
  6. sskraly

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    After a quick look at the help on the LBA48 CD, it looks like, if you are using a large (approx. >250GB) drive on an S1, you should expand the swap space, and you need

    copykern -s

    to "initialize the swap space" rather than just copykern without any parameters. Is that correct?

    Also, is it still true that the swap should be at least 1/2000 of the HDD size (i.e. 320GB drive -> 160MB swap)?

    So, in summary, an S1 upgrade to use a >137GB drive would be:

    1) mfsbackup/mfsadd/mfsrestore as needed depending on your config
    2) mountcd (not sure when this is needed, but any harm in just doing it?)
    3) copykern -s

    Is this correct?

    Thanks...
     
  7. tivoupgrade

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    Nope...

    CopyKern is just run like this:

    Code:
    CopyKern
    
    No parameters. You can trust me on that; I wrote the script.

    If you choose to create your new drive with increased swap size (that is a function of how you use mfstools and the -s option), then CopyKern will initialize whatever size swap partition is available, regardless of size. We've found no benefits to increased swap size; won't argue about it any more though, I've posted on it many times before. Its personal choice though and it certainly doesn't hurt to have a larger swap.
     
  8. rvnap

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    PTV LBA48 BootCD Ver4.04:
    Tried to make backup image of HR 10-250 (orig. drv,with only 2hrs of recording on drv). I have used correct configuration,jumpers. Used commands suggested by Hinsdale Guide. Drives are recognized at full capacity.
    The backup gets to " scanning source drive, wait a moment",
    it will scan the drive for 4-5 hours , then stops responding.
    I have made several good backups & restores of SD-40s,but can't make backup of this drive.
    Please help if you can.
    Thanks,
    rvnap
     
  9. Jan 2, 2008 #469 of 572
    Kildurin

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    If you see the 0x053xxxxx message when doing copykern, you are seeing a problem with the mounted CD. Basically, it did not mount the CD automagically as it tries to do. It does this to me even though my system has 1 CD drive as hdc. Anyway, easy enough to fix. See previous explanations on finding and mounting the CD but for me this works:

    mount /dev/hdc /cdrom

    Also, I have found that hacking the script to add hda as an option does not seem to be an issue. Thanks for including vi on the CD.

    Hope this helps a few people.

    I have one question. I am having a great deal of trouble doing the upgrade. I got 2 500GB hard drives from Fry's very cheap and am trying to install them in Series 1 Phillips HD212. It never boots with the 500GB drives. I wonder if this is due to a byte swapping issue? I do see a grey flicker screen before returning to the "starting" screen. Do I need byte swapping, DMA settings or other? When I complete the upgrade I get 515 hours or 1100 hours depending on using 1 or 2 drives. I am falling back to getting one drive working before moving ahead.

    Where are these other threads if this is not the right one for the question?
     
  10. Jan 2, 2008 #470 of 572
    Kildurin

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    I did some research on byte swapping and noticed a alternate boot on the CD with lines like hdb=bswap etc? Is this applicable to a Series 1 standalone? If so, what about the cdrom sitting on /dev/hdc? Will this bswap the data on it? Sorry, I want this to work but the 500G's are just not booting up fully in the Tivo.
     
  11. Mar 6, 2008 #471 of 572
    scoombs

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    I have a Sony SVR-2000 with the TivoNET (pre-cursor to the TurboNET card) installed. It is running on a pair of 320GB drives without LBA48 support, each limited to 137GB. I believe that I can copykern a replacement kernel to add LBA48 and expand the space, but I see no reference to any modified kernels with TivoNET support and therefore expect I would lose network mods as a result of the kernel replacement. So would it be correct to assume my only three options would be to :

    1.) Live with the current 137+137 non-LBA48 kernel

    2.) Upgrade the kernel and lose networked capabilities

    3.) Replace the TivoNET with a TurboNET or Cachecard, and then replace the kernel?
     
  12. Mar 6, 2008 #472 of 572
    tivoupgrade

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    Replacing the kernel with one that supports LBA48 won't expand your space for you. Expanding the space is a separate process and that can be done with or without an LBA48 kernel in place on the TiVo, its just that if you do it without an LBA48 kernel installed on the TiVo, you are going to have problems.

    Secondly, the kernel, and TiVoNet support are mutually exclusive, to get TiVoNet working you'd need to install the drivers. I have no idea on where to find them, these days, but I'm sure they are out there.

    So, the questions you are asking are really not related to one another. I believe there may be a way to expand your drives, possibly using mfslive (mfslive.org). If you can, then you are essentially done, just run copykern after you've done so and get your LBA48 kernel installed.

    With that said, you might consider just getting a new hard drive, starting over from scratch and possibly going to a TurboNet card; things are considerably less expensive than they used to be and by doing things fresh on new hardware, you won't be putting your old stuff in jeopardy, while experimenting.

    It is a shame that you've got almost 400GB of unusable space by using 2 x 320GB drives in your system...
     
  13. Mar 6, 2008 #473 of 572
    scoombs

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    Thanks for the reply. So if I swapped in the TurboNet card (or CacheCard), the $4.99 version of the LBA48 CD has the right kernel for the networking drivers and apps that I would need to retain that functionality as well as support the expanded size?
     
  14. Mar 6, 2008 #474 of 572
    tivoupgrade

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    You can use the free LBA48 CD which has CopyKern and the LBA48 kernel on it (see the first post of this thread for info).

    Networking drivers and apps have nothing to do with the kernel; completely separate.
     
  15. Mar 6, 2008 #475 of 572
    scoombs

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    My apologies for being dense...so in the first post where it talks about:

    "If you are looking for a CD with killhdinitrd, or kernels modified with killhdinitrd (these tools are used for installing networking and other aftermarket modifications to Series2 units with USB ports)"

    If it literally only applies to Series2 units (I take it that it is likely referring to USB networking then), there are no kernel implications for networking of my Series1 aftermarket mods? If that is the case, and I have the TivoNet drivers installed and functioning on the device now, does that mean I really can just copykern from the free CD and take advantage of the increased space, and the TivoNet mods will be untouched? If so, it sound like you are saying the free image will do everything I need, and I don't need the "DVRupgrade LBA48 CD v4.04 With Enhancements" to deal with any of the networkability issues?
     
  16. Mar 7, 2008 #476 of 572
    gary80920

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    I had a TivoNet card and my ISA lan controller died so I had to replace mine with a TurboNet card. This is no big deal as the Tivo is built using Linux. And the drivers are loaded dynamically.

    The LBA48 upgrade using the free CD should do the trick for you.

    Here's the process that I used:
    1. I backed up my drives.
    2. I did the kernel upgrade, and ran it for a couple of days.
    3. Added my 160gB drive.

    Cheers.
     
  17. Mar 7, 2008 #477 of 572
    scoombs

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  18. martinfick

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    I upgraded my series 1 tivo to a 500GB Seagate drive successfully, but with a glitch. Every now and then during playback the sound seems to get behind for a split second and then it catches up real quickly. It is not a big deal, but it is kind of annoying. It does not happen at the same place repeatedly so it must be an actual playback issue.

    At first I thought it might be a defective drive, but since I have tried it with 2 other (also brand new) Seagate 500GB drives and I see the same problem. I also swapped the drive into my other series 1 tivo and see the same problem so it is probably not broken hardware. Has anyone else seen anything like this? I assume it could be some weird seagate behavior perhaps?

    Background info: Series 1 Stand Alone Tivo (Phillips), Software System: 3.0-01-1-000. Hacked with several standard tivo utilities (mfs_ftp, tivoweb, endpad...), I dissabled those and found that it still occurs. LBA48 kernel, large swap (1GB), largest block size (mfstool -r 4).

    If I decide to buy another new drive soon, could someone recommend one that is known to work, a 500GB or above, so that I could at least rule out any drive incompatibility problems? Thanks,

    -Martin
     
  19. ADent

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    How long ago did you upgrade?

    I am getting this in the last week or two on my S1 unit. I haven't done anything new to it since the last DirecTV upgrade, over a year ago IIRC.
     
  20. martinfick

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    Hmm, it's been doing it for over a year I think. I bought a 500G drive a year ago, and noticed the problem. I bought the second 500G last summer, swapped it, and still had the problem. I bought another one this year, swapped it again and still had the problem.
     

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