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MFStools Boot CD - LBA48 Boot Disk for ALL TiVo Models

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by tivoupgrade, Oct 4, 2004.

  1. Jun 2, 2006 #361 of 572
    tivoupgrade

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    You can ignore that fellow; he couldn't be more wrong and has completely misrepresented the situation. Our software is not buggy, and the thread referenced just a few posts ago discusses the migration of the DirecTV software from 3.1.0 to 3.5.0 and how to use free tools here to deal with that issue, even if you've used InstantCake for your upgrade. If you've purchased an earlier version of InstantCake there is no need to purchase anything further and no knowledge of MFStools is required regardless of the path chosen (unless you want to do your upgrade over again completely from scratch). Just follow the recommendations made in the Series1 DirecTiVo Software Update (3.5.0) Migration Thread and you'd be good to go.

    In your particular case, you may not want to go the DIY route; consider a kit, or consider a DIY software product, or consider a completely DIY route that involves purchasing nothing and using all of the free resources at your disposal. BUT, whichever method you choose to use, please do your research and understand the implications of using that particular method before you implement it.

    As for this thread, its about our free LBA48 CD; please see the first post as it will give you a good overview of what this CD is used for.
     
  2. ItzNeil

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    I have a 140060. The version on my InstantCake CD is 4.xx, but my TiVo is updating itself to > 7.2, which I think should support >137GB. I installed a pair of 200GB drives, but did not use the LBA48 CD, and as expected, IC showed about 360 hours, and my TiVO shows the same, even after it installed the 7.2 software.
    My question is does 7.2 support >137 on ALL TiVo boxes?
    Seems I have 3 options. Any suggestions which would be best are welcome.
    - Start over w/ 2X120 and call it good, since not all 7.2 loads support large drives.
    - Start over w/ 2X200 and the LBA48 CD, and hope this will work (can't really tell from the instructions, as the 140060 model is ONLY mentioned with the 4.xx software)
    - Start with a single 120 drive, and *after* the 7.2 update, bless a 200 to install, hoping 7.2 DOES mean large drive support on my box.
     
  3. azitnay

    azitnay New Member

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    All 7.x (and for that matter, 5.x and up) software supports LBA48.

    You should be able to boot with an LBA48-compatible CD and simply mfsadd -x to expand to fill both drives.

    In lieu of that, you can certainly start over with an LBA48 CD and a 7.2 image.

    Drew
     
  4. ItzNeil

    ItzNeil New Member

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    Thanks Drew.

    Just to rephrase this in a way that I clearly understand...

    You said> LBA48-compatible CD and simply mfsadd -x to expand to fill both drives.
    I think you mean> Now that I have updated to 7.2, I should be able to expand to the full 200GB size.
    This would be ideal, since it would save all teh settings and shows I've recorded again, and not irritate TiVo by rerunnig the update, correct?

    You said> start over with an LBA48 CD and a 7.2 image.
    I think you mean> You'll have to find 7.2 image somewhere, since the IC CD only contains 4.xx.
    Is there some way to make my current image the backup on the CD?
    Will teh LBA48 Cd (From PTVUpgrade) NOT work with the 4.xx image to do what I'm trying to do? That would suggest using teh 120GB drive and adding a second drive after would be best...

    Thanks for clarifying.
     
  5. ItzNeil

    ItzNeil New Member

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    OK, so I typed this command

    mfsadd -x dev/hdc dev/hdd

    after booting from the lba48 CD from PTVUpgrade. The response back was Current estimated size is :312 Hours
    Nothing to add!

    Not sure what to make of that... Am I really back to whacking these drives and starting over?
     
  6. JamieP

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    You need to manually update your partition tables to reflect the actual disk sizes. After that, you'll be able to expand with mfsadd. See this.

    The A drive probably has a full partition table now and can't be expanded again, so only the B drive will expand. If you want the full space of both drives. you probably want to start over with a fresh image.
     
  7. tivoupgrade

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    There is a much easier way to do this and it is discussed more in the Official InstantCake Support thread over the DVR playground and specific steps are documented in part 1 of this thread.

    Basically, you want to boot with the LBA48 CD and use the PTVbake-special script, in combination with your 4.01 InstantCake CD. What that will do is create the partitions in LBA48-mode, and although the resulting 4.01 installation will not be LBA48 aware, just ensure your unit updates itself to 7.2 prior to it actually filling up with more than 137GB of information on the drive. Once 7.2 is installed, your TiVo operating system will see the full capacity of the drive.

    Granted, this does mean you need to whack your drive and lose what is currently on there, but the process is simple and straightforward.
     
  8. JamieP

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    Ack! That sounds really dangerous. It's quite possible to see lba28 wrap around even if mfs isn't full of shows yet. The upgrade to 7.2/3 itself may end up writing to blocks above the lba28 mark (137GB).

    The safe way to do this is to first lay the 4.x image down without expansion (so the space above the lba28 mark is still unpartitioned), then update to 7.x, then expand. This ensures that a non-lba48 kernel never uses space above the lba28 mark.

    Even better, start with a 7.x image.
     
  9. tivoupgrade

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    I know... but we've tested it internally and it works fine. We actually shipped "large drive kits" with 4.01 on them about 3 months prior to 7.1 being released and had zero transition issues, when tivo updated to 7.1...

    I agree, though - best way is to start with a 7.X image, or do as you say by not expanding, then expanding...
     
  10. Jul 5, 2006 #370 of 572
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    BubbaDude New Member

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    I downloaded and applied the PTVupgrade for large disks day before yesterday and had exactly the same problems as john_o:

    I copied the entire contents of a single-disk Philips DSR6000 DirecTivo Series 1 to a new 300 GB Maxtor drive, using:

    mfsbackup -Tao - /dev/hdd | mfsrestore -s 300 -r 4 -zxpi - /dev/hdc
    copykern (3.10+ and /dev/hdc)

    There were no errors on the backup/restore or copykern (both commands were successful). Mfsrestore reported 300 hrs more or less.

    I didn't take a backup of the kernel since I already had one on the original disk, which I'm no longer using, and the system I ran these commands on doesn't have any FAT partitions, only NTFS and Ext3's.

    As this box is already dual boot Linux/Win XP, I also tried running the mfstools from my Linux setup (FC5) and they didn't work, mfsinfo said the volumes were corrupt, but that's an aside.

    I booted from CD to run the upgrade.

    After doing the LBA48 upgrade, everything appeared to work at first - TiVo reported 284 hrs of record time, and I could play all my saved shows no problem. But as soon as I'd recored some new shows, the problems started:

    1. Existing recordings were lost.
    2. Now Playing background was lost
    3. Going to To Do list caused a reset.
    4. MPEG errors playing new shows (black bars, intermittent.)

    So it appears that the disk partitioning/upgrade worked and the patch failed, as the "patched" kernel behaves like it's not LBA48-aware.

    Am I doing something wrong, or is the "experimental" patch not right?
     
  11. Jul 6, 2006 #371 of 572
    tivoupgrade

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    We've not had any problems with the updated kernel (3.1.0+); chances are that it either was not installed correctly or you have a hardware problem (bad drive, bad cable, etc); We've done plenty of testing, and there are enough kits / InstantCake-created drives out there now running the recompiled kernel - no problems...
     
  12. Jul 6, 2006 #372 of 572
    BubbaDude

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    We can rule out any hardware problems, as the hardware works fine as long as the patch isn't installed, and two people have the identical set of problems.

    And if the patch is perfect, that leaves us with only one explanation: some sort of user error in the upgrade process. So let's explore that.

    1. Are my parameters bad?

    2. Specially, is -s 300 too large?

    3. Is it necessary to backup the kernel before patching it?

    4. Is it necessary to run killinitrd? I didn't do that.

    I'm just trying to figure out how to make this upgrade work, whatever it takes.
     
  13. BubbaDude

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    Man, it sure got quiet here all of a sudden.
     
  14. Beantownbeanie

    Beantownbeanie New Member

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    Hi, SOrry if this is the wrong place. I was not sure where to post.
    I got the ethernet adapter and I can see my tivo from my computer when I open a browser and type in the IP Address.

    However, I can't record or do anything until it makes its first call. I thought once I connected the adapter and got it online I was all set. Should I plug the phone line in and let it call? Please advise.


    Also does this replace my calls?
    Thanks.
    Ken wooo hoooooooooooo my 100th post!
     
  15. Aug 6, 2006 #375 of 572
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    I just got a copy of Instant Cake. During the restore process I keep getting:

    Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address 00000001
    *pde = 00000000
    Oops: 0002
    CPU: 0

    and a whole buch of other stuff.

    This has happened with two drives and I am very sure at least one of them is in good shape. Any thoughts?

    Thanks.
     
  16. Aug 9, 2006 #376 of 572
    TerryK

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    I have a Sony SVR 2000 that a couple months ago developed a skip where the picture would freeze and sound would go out for about 5 seconds. Frequency varied but averaged at least once a 1/2 hour program. I contacted PTV and they said it was probably the HD (sounds reasonable). I got the replacement, installed it, and the TiVo continues to do exactly the same thing. I emailed PTV several days ago and no reply. I'm not looking to get a refund or anything, I just want to get to the bottom of what's wrong with my poor TiVo. I have a lifetime subscription and I don't want to give it up.

    Thanks!
     
  17. Jgriffi104

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    I just upgraded my HR-10-250 with two Maxtor 250 gig drives and the Weakknees bracket and Interactive Tivo instructions and the free lb48 cd iso download. It took me two weeks playing with the MFSbackup, MFSADD and Mfsrestore trying to get the tivo to recognize the two drive even though the the computer said the 2 drives add 301 hours for a total of 501. The tivo would only show 30 hd and 200 sd. Then last Tuesday I got additional information on the 500 mb swap file and tpip version 1.2. I used the my orginal mfsbackup and redid the restore with the following commamd line

    mfsrestore -r 4 -s 500 -zxpi /mnt/hdtivo.bak1 /dev/hdc /dev/hdd

    This took 6 and a half hours in the cleaning up restore mode. I unmounted the drives then rebooted the computer and used the command tpip -1 -s /dev/hdc

    unmounted the drives and put them into the tivo. Now system ifrormation showed
    63 hd and 426 sd hours.

    Everything went well but all the saved recordings went to delete now when you clicked on them. Then said the recorder could not record because there was no video and I may have tried to record a channel I wasn't authorized to receive.

    I still have the original 250 gig drive. Is there any way to restore it again and get the recordings this time and be able to watch them? According to the instruction the recording should have been transfered and been usable.

    John Griffin
     
  18. kpauley

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    I'm upgrading my T60 right now from it's original 40GB drive to a 200GB Maxtor. Using the Instant Cake Software. It is actually transferring right now. I was reading a little closer though and I'm concerned about one thing.

    I checked my Tivo before I took it apart, showed I'm on version 3.5.01.1.011. I'm I now going to have a problem? I see some comments about the 3.5 version and the copykern command.

    Do I need to run the copykern command with this version? Or will this 3.5 version not work for me with the large disk?

    Ken
     
  19. kpauley

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    I re-read the beginning of the thread, saw the update (above) from 5/12. I just downloaded the tool so I'm thinking I'm using this version (will verify when the copy is done). So I'll use the copykern command to get this latest recompiled kernel and hope it works with my 3.5 version....
     
  20. Sbmocp

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    I have the growing feeling that there really IS some problem with this "patched" version of the earlier kernel. I've been holding off performing an upgrade/redo of my S1 DTiVo box just because I keep reading horror stories from people who have problems with this patched upgrade. PTV says they've tested many boxes and haven't had problems, yet why are people posting with wierd quirks when they're trying to upgrade their boxen?

    I think PTV should bite the bullet, do the work, and incorporate the latest kernel. That would, most likely, solve these odd problems and make everybody happy.
     

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