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MFStools Boot CD - LBA48 Boot Disk for ALL TiVo Models

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by tivoupgrade, Oct 4, 2004.

  1. john_o

    john_o New Member

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    Looks like TiVo finally posted the 3.5 source.

    http://www.tivo.com/linux/linux.asp

    I look forward to a rev of 3.5 with an LBA48 kernel, as the 3.1.0+ / LBA48 sidegrade has been extremely unstable, rebooting several times an hour...

    By the way, if you are running TivoWebPlus you will probably notice that a bunch of stuff broke. 3.5 uses V3 rather than V2 of the guide directory, but the script in index.ictl thinks that all 3.x revs use V2. As noted on other web sites, you need to change this:

    if {$::version >= 3} {
    set guideindexdir "/GuideIndexV2" <---- This changes to V3
    } else {
    set guideindexdir "/GuideIndex"
    }
     
  2. tivoupgrade

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    To my knowledge, TiVo has not posted the 3.5 kernel changes. You may want to look into other potential causes of the instability you are experiencing. We've installed the kernel on MANY systems and have done quite a bit of testing with no problems at all.
     
  3. JamieP

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    It was there yesterday, but it appears to have been since pulled.
     
  4. john_o

    john_o New Member

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  5. JamieP

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    Dead links for me. Like I said, it looks like they were removed since yesterday.
    "uname -a" on the tivo will provide kernel version information. The build date/time generally can uniquely identify a kernel build.
     
  6. john_o

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    OK, *that's* weird, i just downloaded them a minute before I posted. 6.5 MB and 5.8 MB. Can send to whoever needs them.

    Results of uname -a:

    Linux (none) 2.1.24-TiVo-2.5 #9 Wed May 10 11:08:35 EDT 2006 ppc unknown
     
  7. JamieP

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    Near as I can tell, you have the 3.1+ kernel Todd compiled:
    Code:
    .../s1_kernels/kernel-3.1+ % strings vmlinux-3.1.px  | grep "Linux version"
    Linux version 2.1.24-TiVo-2.5 (millert@inverness.columbia.ads.sparta.com) (gcc version 2.8.1) #9 Wed May 10 11:08:35 EDT 2006
    Note that the data and time of the build match yours exactly.
     
  8. tivoupgrade

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    I don't think that's an indication that the 3.1.0+ kernel is unstable; its more likely an indication that the files became corrupt during the interim period prior to the 3.1.0+ kernel being installed...
     
  9. john_o

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    Thanks, JamieP, appreciate the confirmation.

    While that's a possibility (though what could have caused the corruption? simply accessing shows that crossed over the 120MB kernel limit before updating the kernel?) it doesn't explain the immediate reboot when I access the "To Do List" in the "Pick Programs To Record" menu.

    One thing I don't understand -- shouldn't I be seeing the whole disk rather than just 120-ish GB? Here's what I get with df:

    Code:
    Filesystem         1024-blocks  Used Available Capacity Mounted on
    /dev/hda7             126911   16832   103526     14%   /
    /dev/hda9             126911   22607    97751     19%   /var
    
    I see "up to 146 hours" in the System Info screen.
     
  10. PyroMan

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    They are there again. I can't attach them because of there size, but I can post them on a website if they disappear again:
    Commands, Modules
    Tivo-3.5-cmd.tar.gz
    MD5 372448D947299EEDDF2442F07F30A610

    Linux for Power PC
    TiVo-3.5-linux-2.1.tar.gz
    MD5 93614277E35A2A8147D17AE28CCC756E
     
  11. john_o

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    While I'm willing to accept that 3.1.0+ is stable for some, has anyone with 3.1.0+ seen the following?

    1) instant reboot when entering the "To Do List"
    2) video image in background of "Now Playing List" (rather than standard TiVo background) after accepting "Delete this recording" of a show just watched
    3) reboots while watching certain shows recorded prior to the 3.5 update

    For that matter, did anyone with an unpatched 3.5, >120GB system seen these issues *before* going to 3.1.0+?

    Can anyone running 3.1.0+ confirm that the updated kernel allows them stable access to all shows recorded prior to the 3.5 update?

    Thanks,
    johnny0
     
  12. Jun 1, 2006 #352 of 572
    danmcd

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    #1 --> No, but I get reboots when playing shows.

    #2 --> Yes. I thought this might be a "feature" of the new bits.

    #3 --> Absolutely yes. And given your previous posts, I'm guessing just upgrading the kernel will not allow me to recover those shows. Oh well. Good thing our archived children's shows get rerun all of the time.

    I'm upgrading my kernel tonight using copykern and the free LBA48 CD. I hope it works...
     
  13. Jun 1, 2006 #353 of 572
    tivoupgrade

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    Yes, that is all it would take; and corruption could absolutely explain the immediate reboot. Remember, your to-do list contains information about the shows and where they live on the drive. If that information became corrupt, as it is like to have become when a kernel ran on the system that could not keep track of information beyond the 137GB barrier, it could cause the system to panic.


    Remember, df doesn't show you the whole drive; the mfs partitions, which are raw partitions, don't show up with a df...

    ... I don't think you are dealing with a kernel problem here, or the problems would be across the board (ie happening on all systems using it, not just a few where the kernel has been installed after the update has taken place).
     
  14. Jun 1, 2006 #354 of 572
    danmcd

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    I just got back from my friend's house (I've no whitebox PCs in my house, just my AMD64 work laptop and our Macs). The kernel upgrade (using copykern) seems to have worked, and kill_initrd indicated there was no initrd on my HD.

    I'm waving the dead-chicken of "remove all shows", which IIRC is a self-initiating MFS format. Hopefully from here on out there will be no problems or corruptions of recordings.

    BTW, I was damned lucky my friend had kill_initrd - I didn't see it on the LBA48 disk, and it really should be there for folks to at least verify they don't *need* it.
     
  15. Jun 1, 2006 #355 of 572
    tivoupgrade

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    killinitrd won't work as you'd expect it to if it were on the lba48 CD; when run on series1 drives, you need to boot the kernel differently than its set up for on the lba48 CD; that is why, in the 3.5 migration thread, we recommend you just use the silicondust network driver CD to do that part... i know that is not clear from this thread - but we drifted off-topic here several posts ago - it is discussed in more detail here, though:


    Series1 DirecTiVo Software Update (3.5.0) Migration Thread
     
  16. Jun 1, 2006 #356 of 572
    danmcd

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    That's funny - we found it on a network driver CD he had purchased from you guys (probably the very Silicon Dust one). Well, that confirms we did the right thing.

    Now I just gotta go see if the reformat's done yet...
     
  17. Jun 1, 2006 #357 of 572
    tivoupgrade

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    True - yes, its on the Universal Boot CD; that CD does contain the proper boot environment and also the Silicondust drivers, and killinitrd; but the recommendation we made was related to the free stuff, not stuff you have to pay for...
     
  18. Jun 2, 2006 #358 of 572
    dumpav

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    Is this the right thread to ask about instant cake question?

    I have a HUMAX DRT 800 with DVDR and a 500GB drive.

    I want to know is this the right item i should order/download?
    Code: ICAKE-S2SA
    Price:$19.99
    Tivo model number HUMAX DRT800(+9.99 -large download)

    what does it mean "large download"?

    if i buy this IC do i need to run any special command? to set up the swap file for a 500GB drive?
    or it will automatic do the optimize the setting for me?

    thanks
     
  19. Jun 2, 2006 #359 of 572
    AdventureDude

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    My hard drive was dying on my Sony Series one. I had upgraded it 3 years ago and was aware of the process. I was also aware that it took me the better part of a Saturday to do. I was not looking forward to it.

    I decided to purchase the InstantCake ISO. It promised to be an easy way to rebuild the system without too much work.

    I purchased the system on 5/12 (21 days ago)

    TWO days later I get an email saying I might have some problems (rebooting, freezing, some programs not working).

    A week later, those promised problems arise.

    I've done some research and I found out the PTVUpgrades knew about the problem several weeks before they sold me the software, and released and updated CD two days later.

    When I asked them for the updated ISO so that I can have the simple install (that works) that I purchased, they tell me that I can use the update (which requires a familiarity with MFS tools) or rebuy the software.

    They are jerks, and I will not do business with them again. I write this as a warning to others.

    To be fair:
    The software was simple to use.
    Their tech support responded quickly.

    To be even more fair:
    Solving my problem could not have been eaiser and I can't imagine how they think charging me twice for software that didn't work the first time was 'fair'.

    I'm very dissapointed

    Tony Wilson
     
  20. Jun 2, 2006 #360 of 572
    dumpav

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    thanks for the info, so how you finally fix your problem? do you pay again for their buggy software?

    if i am not using their software are there any easy way to do my own?

    As i am confuse there are so many different version, like Hinsdale, weaknees.... and from different post, some said some of the iso not support large drive. Some need to dl another disc to set up swap file.

    I just hope there is a clean easy way to set up my box.
     

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