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MFS Tools 2.0! An upgrade revolution!

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by Tiger, Jun 15, 2002.

  1. Jun 15, 2002 #1 of 670
    Tiger

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    Announcing the release of MFS Tools 2.0!

    MFS Tools 1.0 was evolutionary in the TiVo upgrade process. MFS Tools 2.0 may prove to be revolutionary.

    Key features:

    • Seamless support for AT&T and Series 2 TiVo
      When restoring a backup of an AT&T or Series 2 TiVo made with MFS Tools 2.0, no longer will it be necessary to give a flag to restore for it to get the byte order right. All Series 2 and AT&T TiVos can be worked on with the same ease afforded Series 1 TiVos, all completely seamlessly.
    • Upgrade a second time without losing recordings
      It's all over the hack FAQ and the underground. You can only have TiVo upgrade with a blessed drive once. It is set in stone, if you want to upgrade again you lose recordings. Not anymore. Due to research into the workings of TiVo, MFS Tools is now able to upgrade a drive without having to bless it and rely on the TiVo software to upgrade it correctly. In fact, with MFS Tools 2.0, you can upgrade again and again, upgrading one drive up to 5 times (3 for some models)
    • Upgrade both drives on AT&T and Series 2 TiVo
      Have an AT&T or Series 2 TiVo, and getting jealous of your friend with 344 hours, while you are stuck with a mere 200? Not anymore! Now Series 2 TiVos can be as large as Series 1! As far as MFS Tools treats them for upgrading, all TiVos are basically the same. There is no need to have a separate tool for standalone, DirecTiVo, and Series 2. One tool does it all.
    • Increase performance without sacrificing space
      When you use MFS Tools 2.0 for all your upgrade needs, you do not need to worry about giving your TiVo extra RAM or swap (Though it never hurts) - MFS Tools is able to create the new MFS partitions in such a way as they use less RAM for the exact same space, making even a full 344 hour upgrade safe to perform without extra RAM or swap.

    Download it directly ot as an ISO bootable image HERE! (Or from a mirror)
     
  2. Jun 15, 2002 #2 of 670
    dsmdriver

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    Wow. Let me be the first to say thanks for all the hard work Tiger!

    I do have a question though: I already have a Series 1 with a 60+80Gb setup. The menus are a bit slow when going into now playing. Is there any way for me to take advantage of the reduced RAM usage MFS model without loosing my recordings or would I need to start from scratch?
     
  3. Jun 15, 2002 #3 of 670
    DCIFRTHS

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    Looking forward to using it. Thanks !!!
     
  4. Jun 15, 2002 #4 of 670
    David Platt

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    I'm glad I followed my instincts and heeded the rumors that this was on tht horizon. I got my Outpost $109 120GB drive last week, but decided to hold off for a few weeks. Glad I waited!! Thanks for all the hard work, guys.
     
  5. Jun 15, 2002 #5 of 670
    zaknafein

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    Tiger, you really do amazing work. Thanks again.
     
  6. Jun 15, 2002 #6 of 670
    bdub

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    Drat! I should have waited just one more day! Now I've got a 300-hour TiVo with nothing to watch.

    Oh, well. It's just TV. :)

    Thanks, Tiger. You've made life great for tinkering couch potatoes everywhere!
     
  7. Jun 15, 2002 #7 of 670
    David Platt

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    And, as an addendum to my previous post--

    I've just complete the first (to my knowledge) non-beta upgrade using the new software. It was on a Philips DirecTivo running 2.5.2. I went from a 40GB/80GB config to a 120GB/80GB without a hitch, and still have all my shows. The whole process took about 3 1/2 hours; the majority of that time was wating on dd, as to be expected. I'm sure my upgrade time would have been much longer if I hadn't gone through and deleted all my suggestions first!
     
  8. Jun 15, 2002 #8 of 670
    stormsweeper

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    Nah, dd copies the whole drive no matter what.

    MFSTools 2.0 rocks, guys. Oh yeah, and people w/ Sonys you don't need an 11 partition image anymore. Let my dual 80GB setup stand witness to that. :)
     
  9. Jun 15, 2002 #9 of 670
    philhu

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    take it from a beta user!

    It really! ROCKS!

    I did a 30/60 to a 120/120 upgrade without losing programs!!!!!!

    It is bulletproof!!!

    phil
     
  10. Jun 15, 2002 #10 of 670
    Mars

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    Traverse...
    Will MFS Tools 2.0 work with TiVo's 3.0 software?
     
  11. Jun 15, 2002 #11 of 670
    stormsweeper

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    Yep.
     
  12. Jun 15, 2002 #12 of 670
    idlepaw

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    Hi, just used this to upgrade by AT&T Tivo2. Noticed two mistakes though. First, in step 7, when mounting my windows c drive, I had to type "mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/dos" to get it to mount. Second, in step 8, you wrote, "Take (one of) your new drive(s) and set it’s jumpers to Master. Connect the drive to your secondary IDE channel to make it Secondary Slave." I think it should be "Secondary Master", not slave. Except for these two minor mistakes, everything worked great! Thanks!!!
    Ben
     
  13. Jun 15, 2002 #13 of 670
    David Platt

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    Aaah... I had never paid much attention to how dd works, as I've never needed to use it before. I assumed the time of the backup was directly correlated to how many programs you have, not the size of the drive. Thanks for the info-- I won't bother deleting anything when I upgrade my Hughes!
     
  14. Jun 16, 2002 #14 of 670
    Craftsman

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    You Da MAN !!!

    One week ago I upgraded from a 1 drive TiVo series 2 60Gb, to a 60 + 120. The 60Gb A drive is really a 120Gb (using 60). I put in 2 120's. I was looking towards the future.

    Well, guess what?

    THE FUTURE IS HERE !

    :)

    Thanks to you.

    Very generous.


    THANK YOU !


    Now I just can't wait to 'swell' my A drive.
     
  15. Jun 16, 2002 #15 of 670
    Worf

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    Wow, now that's cool. Now I can stop worrying what to do when my 90-hour TiVo (single 80GB drive) is full :). I wanted to use a 120GB drive, but had problems... now I guess I can easily add it to my TiVo if I need to. yay!.
     
  16. Jun 16, 2002 #16 of 670
    kenr

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    I have a DSR6000 with 2 80 GB drives.

    The A drive is a mirror image of the original A drive (only 40 GB of it is used), the B drive was blessed and is used entirely.

    Can the new mfstools expand my A drive to use the entire 80 GB and retain all recordings?

    (I did this upgrade originally before TiVoMad supported the DTiVo)
     
  17. Jun 16, 2002 #17 of 670
    DCIFRTHS

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    The FAQ says:

    Q. How confident can I be in the backup made?

    A. As confident as you want. Feel free to test the backup before doing anything to your source drive. In fact, I encourage you to test your backup. There are a few instances I am still a little uncertain about. Besides, it only takes a few minutes to test.

    My Question: Can you please be more specific when you say: "There are a few instances I am still a little uncertain about".

    The FAQ says:

    When you use MFS Tools 2.0 for all your upgrade needs, you do not need to worry about giving your TiVo extra RAM or swap (Though it never hurts) – MFS Tools is able to create the new MFS partitions in such a way as they use less RAM for the exact same space, making even a full 344 hour upgrade safe to perform without extra RAM or swap.

    My questions:

    1) When I run MFS Tools 2, is there a way to specify more swap space, or is this handled automatically by the tools?

    2) If Ithere is a way topo add more swap space, and I don't do it, what will the downside be? For example, will TiVo still be able to do a repair if necessary?

    Thanks
     
  18. Jun 16, 2002 #18 of 670
    stormsweeper

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    During a restore, there is a flag you can pass to set the size of your swap space. Check the restore options in the readme. This is NOT a new option to MFS Tools, btw.
     
  19. Jun 16, 2002 #19 of 670
    DCIFRTHS

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    I should have asked if it is advisable (a good idea) to add more swap space with the new set of tools. I will be using two 120 GIG drives in a series 2, and I am unclear as to whether the default restore (not specifying a swap size) will actually create a sufficient swap file to run a self repair.

    I want to set it up so that there is enough room to do the self repair. In addition, I'm not confident as to what size swap I should choose if I am "required" to specify this value.


    I thought it was a new feature because one of the readme states:

    MFS Tools 2.0 New Features
    MFS Tools 1.0 was evolutionary in the TiVo upgrade process. MFS Tools 2.0 may prove to be revolutionary.

    - Increase performance without sacrificing space
    When you use MFS Tools 2.0 for all your upgrade needs, you do not need to worry about giving your TiVo extra RAM or swap (Though it never hurts) – MFS Tools is able to create the new MFS partitions in such a way as they use less RAM for the exact same space, making even a full 344 hour upgrade safe to perform without extra RAM or swap.
     
  20. Jun 16, 2002 #20 of 670
    NeZorf

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    Does anyone have any insight if using MFS 2.0 improves the menu speed when there are lots of programs in NP?

    Any tips for dual 120+giggers?
     

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