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MFS Reformatter (mfsr)

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by ggieseke, May 10, 2015.

  1. jmbach

    jmbach der Neuerer

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    If I am not mistaken it is due to empty buffers. Once it starts getting video in the buffers, it will fix itself.
     
  2. sfhub

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    Ok, great, although neither the original drive nor the new drive ever had a cablecard installed so the buffers wouldn't have been filled on the original drive either.
     
  3. jmbach

    jmbach der Neuerer

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    Good point. I know it fixes itself after being on for awhile. Noticed that same issue when's expanding my Premiere. A discussion at that time seem to point to the video buffers. Perhaps is it downloaded content that fills in the gap.
     
  4. sfhub

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    As you mentioned, it did fix itself.

    I still don't have CableCARDs installed so the buffer shouldn't be filling up, but after some connects to the mothership and reboots, it did fix itself. I noticed before the last reboot, I still had a green line item under My Shows for TiVo Suggestions, even though I had disabled TiVo Suggestions under Settings. After the last reboot, the TiVo Suggestions line item was gone and the free space looks appropriate.

    Thanks for your help.

    WD60EFRX
    Cap 6TB - 959 HD or 6606 SD (initial)
    Free 6TB - 964 HD or 6653 SD

    Cap 6TB - 959 HD or 6606 SD (steady state)
    Free 6TB - 956 HD or 6603 SD
     
  5. ggieseke

    ggieseke Well-Known Member

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    It's normal, and those numbers look right for a 6TB drive. I think it's because the space it reserves for ads is empty on a new drive, but that's just a guess.
     
  6. manicmethod

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    I used mfs on a 4tb WD purple drive, everything seemed fine, Roamio booted up but during set up I always get an N11 error when it is connecting. It worked on the stock drive, I've changed between wired/wireless (I normally use wired only), removed switches, restarted over and over, etc. Could this be related to mfs or is it something unrelated? There is very little recent info about N11 errors that I've found, and none that had to do with upgrading a drive.

    If I put the old drive back in everything works as expected...
     
  7. Jim861

    Jim861 New Member

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    Which version of MFSR did you use? I have a Roamio basic 500gb that I put a 2tb drive in and worked fine. Then I tried a WD blue 6tb following the instructions at the beginning of this thread and on Getting info (Connection interrupted). I first used 1003 version. Then used DISKPART to try again.
    Thank You
     
  8. manicmethod

    manicmethod New Member

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    Hrm... This randomly started working after I posted this. Perhaps it was an issue with Tivo's infrastructure?
     
  9. sfhub

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    TiVo servers had problems yesterday into late at night.
     
  10. scht99

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    My 3TB SMR drive just failed after over a year of use in Dec. I put in a standard 2TB seagate 2.5 drive (no prep) and it was running fine until today (lasted about a month). Same flashing 4 light failure.

    Question: has mfsr been updated to allign 2TB drives (in the first post it mentions this might be desirable?).

    I don't want to put in another 2TB and have it fail (the whole reason I went 2 TB was that I wanted cheap, internal and not fail like the SMR drive)

    Anything else I might do to make this thing last longer?
     
  11. jmbach

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    Not yet.
     
  12. HoosontheTeevo

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    *** (problem with 4TB previous roamio plus drive put into a roamio OTA after MFSR - I couldn't get it co complete guided setup.... original down below.....)***
    UPDATE
    SOLVED...
    - got it to complete guided setup, loaded guide data, channel scan and I am up and running - OTA with 4TB is running well. (636 hrs of HD available).
    I did a couple things - not sure what solved it (or if it was just tivo server/rovi guide issues that finally resolved on tivos server end?...)

    1. I took the 4TB drive out and re-did mfsr reformatting again - got a successful result - then put it back in and went through the whole thing again.
    failed again. then I kept selecting to check network or try again, etc.
    2.At one point the failure listed the firewall ports i needed to open - so i went into my verizon router and added them on my verizon fios router
    ...failed again...
    3. then I found a thread where another Tivo user was having Tivo Desktop/PC - tivo - connection issues which I've also been having (so who knows if this did anything) and so for my tivo boxes - I went in and checked the box for "IGMP allowed" for each for each tivo box listed by their static ip addresses
    Solved: Communication between wired and wireless network on actiontec MI424WR - Page 6 - Verizon Fios Community

    direct link to the router page where you do this once you're logged in to your router (for verizon actiontec anyway)
    http://192.168.1.1/index.cgi?active_page=6061


    Then after all of these steps - I go through full guided setup again -
    and it failed again, and then one more time - and it finally completed.

    So in the words of Clark's cousin Eddie... "I don't know" ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

    Thanks for the MFS Reformatter/procedure ggieseke, donation sent.
    Put an 8TB WD liberated from a mybook (EZZX) in the Roamio Plus - now at 1281 hrs of HD capacity. wow.





    -------detals of finally getting it to work. and original problem/question posted further below -------------
    this a.m it went further at first (so maybe it was the tivo servers that I saw aluded to in another post as giving some problems last night - so maybe that was the 'connection' issue). - getting setup info (completed all), then on to channel scan, completed that then "connect to tivo service for program info - and it got through the end of that - but then after hitting select it got "connection error n11 again- and i had to start over.

    So when it went through again it listed all the possible firewall ports that had to be unblocked - so i went into my fios actiontec router and added them.

    then i did it all again - and at this point it froze - and i think it was because i had the cover off and the fan wasn't able to move the heat away from the hard drive, so i had to power cycle and start again with the top on.

    then this time it finally completed

    country select
    guided setup
    getting setup info - prepairing, connecting, getting info, disconnectin, loading info, done
    then channel scan - done
    then 'will now connect to the tivo service to get program info"
    passed all steps same as above under getting setup info...
    through loading and done, select to continue.
    then a different result - a message like - 'there is enough guide data for the day to get you started" and then "press the tivo button to start using your new tivo.

    hooray! persistence pays off
    ----------------- original problem below -------------------
    Hello - Need help with an issue I'm having getting a 4TB to work in a Roamio OTA. hanging at guided setup - s03 or n11 error...

    1. pulled the stock 500gb drive on the ota after i set it up and everything was working fine with antenna/channels/recording/transferring, etc.
    2. powered down, and pulled the 500gb drive so i could put in a 4TB drive that came from a roamio plus (working fine) - a 4TB WD AV GP EURX from a former upgrade (telemark's procedure from spring of 2015) of that roamio plus. had never had any issues.
    3. i did not put it into the OTA and power up to Country screen like you would with a new drive - since it had been in a tivo roamio i assumed it had the tivo file system on it (that may not be the correct term). hope this isn't a big mistake.
    4. pulled one of my internal sata drives and placed the former roamio 4TB in my windows 7 64bit pc - powered up and ran MFSReformatter - which recognized a tivo drive with 3700 odd gb of space - and i hit file - format tivo drive.and it reported that it formatted it and it was ready for a tivo with 3722gb of space +/-.
    5. put it in the OTA - powered up - and it hung on guided setup at the end of getting and uploading guide data and gave me an "S03" error. (which searches tell me isn't great) - then i tried again - and it hung on the getting info/ 'downloading' stage (earlier) - and gave me a connection lost/connection interrupted error (n11?). check the network, etc. (i had used my fios router settings to assign static ip addresses to my tivos - is there any specific guidance on what address to assign? I just assigned the address as static that DHCP had already automatically assigned - and the tivos are like 192.168.1.17 and .18 or something. Does this naming/numbering determine anything - should I assign them .1 and .2 slots or space them out more,? does it matter?
    6. this drive had been fine in the roamio plus with cablecard - working fine up to the day before.
    7. did i need to do some sort of more extensive reformatting/1's/0's overwriting to make this used 4TB ready for MFSR and the OTA?

    thanks for any thoughts and help.
     
    Last edited: Jan 14, 2017
  13. godsey1

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    Has anyone tried the 8tb drive for an extended period? My pro just got to 89% full and need more storage. Thanks for all the work you all have put into this. I was looking at weaknees' upgrade kits. Thanks for any help,

    Tony
     
  14. Zonker007

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    I have been using the WD 8TB hard drive for 5 months now and is around 40% full. It has worked flawlessly since I installed it. The recent firmware upgrade fixed the problem with rebooting when waking from sleep. That was the only issue I had experienced.

    Waking from Standby causes Tivo Roamio OTA to reboot

    Let me know if you have any questions.

    Z
     
  15. Jim861

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    Tony,

    I installed a 6TB WD blue drive that came out of WD external drive into a OTA Romio. I used the software listed in the second post of this thread and is working fine. (I hope it will work on your model Tivo) I thought I was doing something wrong or the software was not working for me. It turned out the TIVO server was having problems. This said if you have problems with process failing in step 5 "5. Put the drive back in the TiVo and enjoy." from 1st post in this thread just try restarting the Tivo a few hours later. I wasted hours trying to wipe the drive and start over. I would get a Blue/Green drive from WD or a Samsung 5900rpm drive. I would not go with a 7200 rpm drive because of the heat. It may not cause a problem, but my box was 10-15deg F higher, may not cause a problem. Also about 50 KW more power a year for a higher speed drive, ~$5 savings plus "may" extend the life of your Tivo. i did measure it power usage. I used 2TB Toshiba 7200 rpm drive for a short time and the extra heat made me get a lower rpm drive.

    My 6tb drive was an external WD that was $110 of clearance. It seam that external drive are a lower cost than bare drives.

    I think if you buy a drive and can not get it to work I think weaknees' has a service to format it for you. If you do use this software please donate to the author, which in need to do.
     
  16. godsey1

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    THanks Jim861 and Zonker007 for the info. I am going to get the drive from Ebay and as soon as it gets here I will try it out. Thanks again.

    Tony
     
  17. godsey1

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  18. Zonker007

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    For $299 I would just buy this drive: WD 8TB My Cloud Personal Network Attached Storage - NAS - WDBCTL0080HWT-NESN-Newegg.com

    You get the same WD Red 8TB inside, but you can reuse the external case with another drive as a networked drive. Someone posted that this drive sold for $199 in early December at Frys. I never saw the sale, but if I did I would have jumped all over 2 of them.

    Here is the link to the post: MFS Reformatter (mfsr)

    Z
     
    Last edited: Feb 12, 2017
  19. godsey1

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    I want a warranty with it. I can get a 3 year square trade for around $42. I belive if you take that one apart you loose it (warranty). When I get it, what cable do I need to get to hook it up to a Gateway laptop that has usb hook ups? I am not very well on computer stuff. I just barely got my Roamio setup, tech wise. Thanks again for all the great help.

    What would be really great is a YouTube video on how to do this. I think I can get most of it done now, but it would be nice to be able to see it done.

    Tony
     
  20. delgadobb

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    That was me. It was $198.01 in early December & Frys had a promotion where they paid the sales tax. I almost bought two. WD 8 TB MyCloud $198.01 @ Frys today; likely WD Red inside

    Although I can't guarantee anything, from my research it certainly looks like the 8TB MyCloud external drive consistently has the WD80EFZX (Red) inside the enclosure. I had to do a little work to extract the drive & install it in my Roamio Base. Getting it out of the enclosure requires patience & a gentle touch as there are sensitive clips holding it together. The hardest part was removing a metal bracket on one side blocking just what I wanted to do; it was attached with hex screws & one of them was stripped. Once I finished removing that piece, installing in the Roamio was easy.

    My update is that I've been running the drive just fine for about 6 weeks now, it's just over 40% full. I've transferred a number of things & been recording movies/shows on all 4 tuners frequently to stress test it. The only concern so far is it runs hotter than my other Tivos - motherboard temperature (MBT on System Info screen) is generally 49-50 where my Roamio Pro (standard 3 TB drive) is 46 as I write this. Is this a significant cause for concern? I've tried to give the 8TB Roamio decent ventilation, but would be happy to install a small exterior fan if anyone has one to recommend.

    The last 4 drives I've used for Tivo upgrades have all come from external drives that were FAR cheaper than their internal counterparts (going back 2+ years, so there is some history.) All are working great. The best deal of the bunch was the WD 5 TB Red from Fry's two Black Fridays ago (Nov 2015) for $88. I was thinking I should've gotten two at the time (using my buddy's promo code for the 2nd); who knew drive prices were going to stagnate? That would still be a phenomenal deal today!
     

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