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Mad Men "For Immediate Release" S06E06 05/05/13

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Zevida, May 5, 2013.

  1. MNoelH

    MNoelH McGruber

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    Yeah. I apparently missed a ton that the wiki talked about. Apparently her mom told Don she was under quarantine for tuberculosis to explain her extended absence. Don seeks her out and finds her in the hospital and encourages her to move forward and forget about the whole thing. It says that it is not clear whether he knows about the pregnancy, but he does know it wasn't tuberculosis. Because he's the only person who visited her, her mother and sister think Don was the father.
     
  2. Zevida

    Zevida witless and unarmed TCF Club

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    It was strongly implied Don knew why she was there. I mean, the sudden weight gain only has a few likely causes. And I just watched a few episodes and in one Peggy tells Don her mom hates him because she thinks he's responsible.

    There was one episode where they hinted the kid might have been raised by Peggy's sister. Peggy is getting ready to leave and her mom says something like "aren't you even going to see him?" And then Peggy peeks in on two kids. But neither kid was the right age and Peggy clearly told Pete she gave him away. Which isn't quite the same as your sister raising him.

    According to this article, it is confirmed that her sister's son is not Peggy's baby, but they were attempting to mislead:

    http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/10/mad-men-peggy-b.html
     
  3. marksman

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    I was glad to see the monkey from community in this episode
     
  4. HellFish

    HellFish I can dress myself.

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    You weren't talking to me, but that seems like a loaded question. First, Joan's sacrifice has already brought in thousands. Secondly, I'd argue Don's is placing Joan's current well being ahead of her previous "sacrifice." His actions are telling me that he doesn't like seeing Joan be forced to hide in his office whenever the dealer visits. In this episode, she said she was handling it fine, but in an earlier episode this season, it was quite clear she wasn't. Finally, the sooner they get rid of Jaguar, the sooner people like Harry can stop holding that over the partner's head. As Harry's previous explosion very nicely points out, it's a very weird situation in general. And when he brought it up, they couldn't defend Joan's actions. Instead, they tried to buy him by giving him a bonus the size of his annual salary.

    I'm surprised no one has suggested that Don was tricked into thinking the merger was his idea. The one CGC guy has cancer, and it sounds like the other 2 CGC partners should be questioning their finances because of it. The wording Don used when suggesting it to Ted at the bar seemed to easily have the roles reversed between the 2 of them. This will become obvious when we watch the series a second time.
     
  5. Robin

    Robin Nasty Woman

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    It's not Don's job to decide which is better for Joan, it's Joan's. And clearly Joan wanted to keep Jaguar.
     
  6. john4200

    john4200 Active Member

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    But it is Don's job to work with clients, and clearly Don did not want to work with that loathsome man. Of course, Don should have consulted his other partners before acting, but Joan is no stranger herself to making rash decisions without consulting people.
     
  7. cheesesteak

    cheesesteak Meh. TCF Club

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    Don finding another man loathsome is kinda funny. Don is one crappy human being.
     
  8. john4200

    john4200 Active Member

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    Compared to that guy, Don is a saint.
     
  9. cheesesteak

    cheesesteak Meh. TCF Club

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    How? Don's a war deserter, an identity thief, a liar, a habitually unfaithful husband, a crappy friend, a crappy workmate and a terrible, unloving parent. The only thing that makes him worth a damn are his job skills.
     
  10. john4200

    john4200 Active Member

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    Don's reaction to what happened in the war is understandable and it is hard to fault him for it -- he could not take it anymore and he did what he had to to get away. He has never failed to provide for his children. His biggest flaw is his cheating on his wives. But that is a small sin compared to virtually forcing a woman to have sex in return for a business deal.
     
  11. GoPackGo

    GoPackGo Well-Known Member

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    Annie's Boobs.
     
  12. cheesesteak

    cheesesteak Meh. TCF Club

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    Millions of soldiers get fed up with war and don't desert.

    Don provides monetarily for his children but very little warmth or love. He'd rather ditch them 90% of the time to chase some tail.

    Joan could have said "No". Nobody forced her to sleep with Herb. She essentially whored herself out for a partnership. She's as sleazy as Herb.
     
  13. betts4

    betts4 I am Spartacus!

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    They are all sleazy scumbags.

    As for Don and his kids, well he did fight to have some custody of them and has provided that. He makes them breakfast and goes places with them. He engages them in conversations and jokes when they are around him. And yes, sometimes he is cold or angry, but he is like that sometimes with everyone.
     
  14. Robin

    Robin Nasty Woman

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    Wow.
     
  15. john4200

    john4200 Active Member

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    I thought we were talking about Herb. For all Herb knew, the partners could have told Joan, "do it or you lose your job". And I had the impression that Herb probably thought that was likely to be the case, the way he asked for her.
     
  16. brianric

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    I would take in a heartbeat as a kid the amount of time Don spends with his kids compared to the amount of time my dad spent with me growing up.
     
  17. jakerock

    jakerock Hey ho howdy! TCF Club

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    it is important not to view Don's parenting using today's standards of what a father is expected to do.
     
  18. TAsunder

    TAsunder Debates Ghee vs Gi

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    I would rather have Don as a parent than Betty. He didn't used to love any of them and yet was a better parent. What's Betty's excuse?
     
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