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Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Zevida, May 5, 2013.
Hmm....vast [/B]personal[/b] experience? Are we still in one piece, then?
I thought it might be the Chevy Monte Carlo (the other car model Chevy introduced in 1970).
Altough it does make more sense for the show for the combined agencies to get a car that'll have major issues. Wouldn't want things to go too easy for Don & Co.
Megan's mom is the sexiest woman on the show.
I'm curious to know who owns what percentage of SCDP stock.
They bought out the Price but left his name on the door. I am guessing SCD own the real majority and Cooper is kinda OK with whatever Don and Roger do.
Did SDCP have an account with Jaguar the manufacturer ? Or the NYC area Jaguar dealer(s)?? The guy Don had dinner with and fired seems like he was a dealer guy. I think it's pretty common for local area dealers (as a group) to have ad campaigns that are separate from the actual manufacturer. And of course, individual dealers certainly have ads too.
What exactly is the nature of the relationship SDCP had?
I was wondering about that, too. In a previous episode, it sounded like the client was Jaguar, not just the dealer. But in this episode it seemed like the dealer was speaking for the entire company. And last season, the dealer was the one Joan had to sleep with to get Jaguar as a client. Perhaps I have forgotten some special relationship this guy had with Jaguar, other than just as a dealer?
As we saw a couple episodes ago, Herb only had a small say in the Jaguar decisions. Remember when Don was meeting with Herb and the two Brits and Don talked about how radio ads would help bring truck drivers to Jag dealerships? That's exactly what Herb wanted, but the Brits were repulsed by the idea.
Well not quite. Herb wanted local radio ads to advertize his dealership instead of national Jaquar ads that advertized the brand (more business for him with that personalized exposure). Don pitched it in a way that made made sure the Brits hated the idea because SDCP wasn't interested in radio ads, they wanted to get the exposure from the national ads.
But Herb definitely had a lot of pull because they had to do what he asked them to do (push for the radio ads) even though Don (much to Pete's displeasure) did it in a way that countered Herb's desire. So I'm not sure exactly what the relationship was but Herb certainly had to at some level be in charge of who got the ad business even though he didn't have total control over what was done.
I guess that there were very few Jaguar dealers in the US in the late 60s and as the owner of one of the biggest dealerships, Herb had a lot of pull. Just a guess.
Don and Roger merged SCDP without telling the other three partners. Burt, Pete and Joanie planned on taking the firm public without telling Roger and Don. That's one bleeped up management group.
That was my guess, too.
did not see the merger coming. at all.
as for the car, my initial thought was Camaro, but i knew that was out before 1968. Vega is not top of mind as a blend of "power & performance"
Right. I do know that. That is what has me confused. Don dropped all of Jaguar or just the local dealer(s)??
Watched this last night (on my newly built IKEA sofa).
I agree with most everything Zevida said!
I am thinking she will come around to to like not having to deal with the guy. I was amused by her, Bert and Peter going from "we are millionaires" to scrambling around and mad at Don - though they didn't tell him about it.
Roger was awesome at the airport.
Roger is awesome everywhere. He's always been my favorite character.
I think SCDPs Jaguar deal was essentially with Jaguar USA, the dealers in this country. Herb was the head of that association. While they were the client, the Jaguar parent company in the UK still had to approve of what was done.
Herb was important in getting the contract. As the head of the USA dealers he could sway them into choosing SCDP. But where his ideas differed with Jaguar's, he needed Don to convince them that his ideas were the way to go. Don used that difference in opinion on how to market the cars against Herb in the meeting where he suggested trying to sell them like Yugos.
I think Herb is head of the dealers association. When they made the pitch, there were three votes, Herb, the Brit home office guy, and probably a guy from the plant. They knew that even though Herb was only one vote that if the dealers weren't on board they couldn't win. That's why they needed his vote.
Herb had a lot of pull and could make life really difficult for SCDP. Even though he might not have been able to fire them be could do things like force a radio pitch or one of his guys into he office. Which is why Don fired him.
I was going to respond to this, but I think Idearat's post just above this does a better job than I would have.
Don dropped the Jaguar USA account.
It had nothing to do with her "dealing" with the guy. It was the fact that she whored herself out to land that client, and then Don threw it away like nothing. So basically Don was saying that Joan's contribution was meaningless. I'm sure you can imagine why that didn't sit well with her.
FWIW, they sold a million in three years and while the article says they stopped selling it after 7 years, they really rebadged a redesign and called it the monza. The monza wagon was essentially identical to the last year Vega Wagon.
FWIW, Don didn't want her to do it in the first place. He basically told her not to do it. He was the only partner that felt that way. When Don saw Joan the next day, he knew she did it and he had a disappointed look on his face.
From Sepinwall: Herb's wife's name is Peaches. Don and Peggy are reunited, and it feels so good to Don, if not to Peggy.