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Mad Men 6/10/12 "The Phantom" Season Finale SPOILERS

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by Peter000, Jun 11, 2012.

  1. Jun 11, 2012 #21 of 139
    vman41

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    The screen test clapboard showed her using the name Calvet. I don't think Don decided that, Megan always saw herself being a famous actress as Megan Calvet.
     
  2. Jun 11, 2012 #22 of 139
    DevdogAZ

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    Although she did say earlier in the episode that she'd use Calvet so it wouldn't be obvious to the client that Din gave the job to his wife.
     
  3. Jun 11, 2012 #23 of 139
    Mr. Soze

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    A couple of other thoughts.

    The dogs shagging??? :eek: And the opposite reaction to Mrs. S. Roger's ass. :eek: :eek: Roger is great though.

    Don watching Megan's reel reminded me of the Carousel episode. He realized how much he loves her, and this time instead of going home to an empty house, he gets her the shoe gig.
     
  4. Jun 11, 2012 #24 of 139
    zalusky

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    It's a metaphor that goes with him walking away as she becomes smaller and smaller.
     
  5. Jun 11, 2012 #25 of 139
    betts4

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    I got this feeling also. He was smiling, in a nice loving way. I hope that the last scene was not him going back to his old ways. I got the feeling that by the end of the episode he had gotten several issues resolved and was back on a good track.
     
  6. Jun 11, 2012 #26 of 139
    Zevida

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    This episode was not as good as that previous two, so it was a bit of a letdown, but it was still pretty solid.

    I would not be surprised if Megan and Don have broken up at the beginning of the next season. Him walking away into the dark as she stayed in the spotlight was pretty clear that the honeymoon of their romance was over. They've actually had a pretty dark relationship. Unlike Betty where they kept of the facade of a happy couple, Don and Megan let the darkness shine through, from the fight after the birthday party dance, to being left at the HoJo to throwing a plate of spaghetti against the wall. Don put up with it as long as Megan stayed in the mold of what he wanted. Watching her screen test he realized she had some talent and he wasn't going to hold her back. But, it also meant he wasn't going to be the perfect husband anymore - hence the seedy bar and picking up the lovely ladies.

    I'm so glad we saw Peggy again.

    I didn't like all the dwelling on Pete. I love office Pete, can't stand home life Pete. Him getting punched out twice was great though.
     
  7. Jun 11, 2012 #27 of 139
    Zevida

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    How funny. I took away the exact opposite impression of the end!
     
  8. Jun 11, 2012 #28 of 139
    mm2margaret

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    Pete deserved getting punched out a lot! He's the absolute definition of a creep. Fun, in a perverse way, to watch, but still a creep.
     
  9. Jun 11, 2012 #29 of 139
    mm2margaret

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    My reaction to this episode, for some reason, was that it had a hard time holding my interest. I found myself drifting. Perhaps that's just because the previous episode had so much going on in it, that it was just not possible for this ep to measure up, but it just didn't hold me. Still trying to figure that out.

    Things did happen in this episode. There was one theme running through it that I saw, which was Don's progression to understanding that he was responsible to help those he loves and cares about to progress. Remember what Megan's mother said to him? I think this shows progress for Don, the eternal womanizer and cad who, up to this season, only appeared to care only about himself. How much progress and how serious? That remains to be seen. Weiner could take this a number of ways, that's the beauty of it.

    He makes that comment to Peggy, who has left him, so to speak, about this very same topic and I viewed the scene when he views the film of Megan as one that said he genuinely loved her and cared about her.

    The scene of him walking away in the darkness with her in the colorful garb about to perform in the commercial she so badly wanted, was haunting, but I don't know that necessarily foreshadows their marriage ending. Nor does him in the bar, either, at least not for sure.

    What choices he makes will be very interesting to follow up on next season, and I just hate having to wait a year to follow up.

    Overall a pretty dam good season, even though this episode just didn't hold up to the others. This episode was mostly just setup for season 6, and from that point of view, and the questions it opened up, it did a pretty good job, imho.

    Is this still the best show on Television? Not sure about that, given the amazing season Justified had, and Game of Thrones had. Still great TV, if not the best this year.
     
  10. Jun 11, 2012 #30 of 139
    cheesesteak

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    Pete should get punched in the face every episode. That makes snoozefests like this episode somewhat more enjoyable.

    I'm getting tired of shows warning about nudity and then having it be naked old man butt.

    What kind of company is it where one partner can unilaterally give someone $50,000.
     
  11. Jun 11, 2012 #31 of 139
    Mr. Soze

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    It would be awesome if Pete could insult some Filipino guy on a Mohawk flight. :D
     
  12. Jun 11, 2012 #32 of 139
    betts4

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    And yes, Pete getting punched a couple times was great. I did do something I never have done before with a Mad Men episode. I fastforwarded thru the Pete and what's her name in the hospital. I watched a minute or so and was just bored.

    I did love the shot with all the directors line up in the windows. Nicely done.
     
  13. Jun 11, 2012 #33 of 139
    tivoboyjr

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    Yes. To me, the most logical interpretation of that closing scene is that the old Don is back. Why show that stylized shot of him walking away from Megan and into the bar with those shameless hussies unless Don is going to cheat (at a minimum) and possibly end the marriage? If the point was supposed to be that Don was going to say No because he loves being married to Meagan so much, then why not just have him have him say "no" or have him stay there and watch her do the commercial?

    I've never found Pete to be interesting, though I do enjoy seeing him being punched. Not quite as much as I enjoy a seeing certain character on Game of Thrones being punched and/or slapped, but close.
     
  14. Jun 11, 2012 #34 of 139
    DevdogAZ

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    I thought it was pretty clear that Don said the company had six years to pay it back, but that they discussed it and decided to pay off Lane's portion early.

    What did Lane's widow mean when she said Lane already had much more than $50k that belonged to him?
     
  15. Jun 11, 2012 #35 of 139
    Marco

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    I assumed that was her sense of entitlement showing, but I could be wrong.
     
  16. Jun 11, 2012 #36 of 139
    DreadPirateRob

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    I think is an interesting set of questions, especially when $50,000 in 1966 is the equivalent of $355,000 in today's dollars.
     
  17. Jun 11, 2012 #37 of 139
    TAsunder

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    It meant that she was still under the impression that they were well-off.
     
  18. Jun 11, 2012 #38 of 139
    cheesesteak

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    Didn't Joan ask about the $50,000 and Don basically told her to mind her own beeswax? I'm surprised Don didn't subtract the $8,000 that Lane embezzled unless it bought him a clear conscience.
     
  19. Jun 11, 2012 #39 of 139
    DreadPirateRob

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    It's tough to figure out exactly what she meant, especially in the context of her other statement, which was something to the effect of they should never had let Lane think as big as he did, i.e. they made him believe he could do better than she felt that he had a right to expect, if that makes any sense.

    So on the one hand, she says that he had given the firm far more than $50K, and on the other, she says that SDCP never should have let him believe he could be more than just a middle manager.
     
  20. Jun 11, 2012 #40 of 139
    Mr. Soze

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    All she got back was the capital call. Lane's partnership piece should have some value too. That needs settling too, unless she's going to keep his interest as a non-employee much as Bert's sister did at the old SC.
     

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