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Lost - "The End" 5/23 series finale (spoilers)

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by jkeegan, May 23, 2010.

  1. May 24, 2010 #281 of 1741
    rlc1

    rlc1 Frakking idiot

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    What I can't figure out is why people that like the ending are so angry at people that didn't. :rolleyes: I gave my explanations as to why I didn't like it. If you don't understand, so be it. I didn't like the ending; you did. People have different opinions - that's why we're on this forum, to read about everyone else's opinion. Don't belittle people because they don't agree with you.
     
  2. May 24, 2010 #282 of 1741
    Rinkdog

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    What do yo make of the last scene showing the plane crash and no sign of survivors? More muddles b.s. with no explanation because they don't have one. I am really irked. After I think about it for a week I may change my opinion but right now I just feel like they didn't explain and they intentionally mislead us. Why show the island sunk as the first scene of the season?
     
  3. May 24, 2010 #283 of 1741
    Wil

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    Trying as hard as I can, because in this branch of Jack's final fantasy (creating a Purgatory), the Island was not a factor, i.e. Jacob had never touched all those lives, and the Others had never visited off-island to cause bus accidents, etc. The major characters just played out their lives 'til they came to the same place. It's very neat, if intended, but admittedly, it's a bit of a stretch.

    Personally, I kinda enjoyed the whole series on a "they're fracking with us" level and I never demanded any logic beyond that the authors were saying "hey, that would be cool; let's do that." And doing it well.
     
  4. May 24, 2010 #284 of 1741
    SeanC

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    Is there a post somewhere in this thread that breaks down what happened at the end, cuz I sure don't know.
     
  5. May 24, 2010 #285 of 1741
    Rob Helmerichs

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    Wow, 283 posts! I had to sleep on it before I said anything, and now you all are turning me into Smeek because no way can I keep up with all this!

    I think the ending emotionally was profoundly satisfying, and intellectually was profoundly unsatisfying. All those moments of awakening were great, and really well-done. But in the end, the whole sidewaysverse seems like just a pretty flimsy excuse to have all those great moments of awakening. I couldn't even tell (and here I may be smeeking) if it was really a communal experience for the dead people (and how on Earth does that make any sense? Why would they go to that moment, a moment that never happened, a moment that the version of which that did happen many of them never participated in in the first place?); the way they presented it, it felt more like Jack's dying hallucination. The entire sidewaysverse was just Jack lying in the jungle fantasizing about what might have been and resolving his issues.

    Still, a lot of truly powerful moments. I just wish they'd done more to earn them intellectually, instead of just emotionally. Yes, Lost was primarily about the characters, but that doesn't mean you can ignore the story completely, and I feel like with the sidewaysverse, that's exactly what they did.

    Which is me harping on the negative. Still, one of the very best shows ever, with an ending that was almost but not quite worthy of it!
     
  6. May 24, 2010 #286 of 1741
    SeanC

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    Yeah, this!
     
  7. May 24, 2010 #287 of 1741
    SeanC

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    Ok, I guess this is the big question that I have at the moment; Where did life and the real universe end and the dream universe begin?
     
  8. May 24, 2010 #288 of 1741
    cheesesteak

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    So what happened on Craphole Island actually happened? The alt-Ocean's 11 plot was them all meeting after their various deaths and walking into the light together?

    Minor nitpicks:
    - How'd they get that big ass tree off of Linus? He was spry afterwards for having a tree fall on him.
    - Kate was pretty athletic for being shot a couple of hours previously
    - I thought it funny that Faraday performed with Driveshaft with no apparent practice.
     
  9. May 24, 2010 #289 of 1741
    Fool Me Twice

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    The sideways world is atemporal, so it doesn't really begin or end. It's just a place the characters met after death to help each other move on. Everything on the island, and all the flashbacks and flashforwards were real.
     
  10. May 24, 2010 #290 of 1741
    Turtleboy

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    The universe didn't end. When each person died, they became part of the flash sideways, where time has no meaning, so they can all start it at the same time.

    Everything not on the flash sideways was real.
     
  11. May 24, 2010 #291 of 1741
    SeanC

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    But.... but.... there were people who weren't dead who were in the FSW? So if you weren't dead you existed in both?
     
  12. May 24, 2010 #292 of 1741
    Rob Helmerichs

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    You only went there when you died, whenever that was. It existed outside of time.

    Unless it was just Jack's dying fantasy.
     
  13. May 24, 2010 #293 of 1741
    Cearbhaill

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    At this point I feel exactly as I did after seeing the ending of 'Atonement'.... screwed over by being manipulated into becoming emotionally invested in something that never happened.
     
  14. May 24, 2010 #294 of 1741
    Fool Me Twice

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    It all happened.
     
  15. May 24, 2010 #295 of 1741
    SeanC

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    So why was Hurley there?

    Was it?
     
  16. May 24, 2010 #296 of 1741
    cheesesteak

    cheesesteak Meh.

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    I thought the finale was two hours. I was thinking they'd better wrap this sucker up quick at about the 1:50 mark.

    I wish I hadn't watched it live. Commercial breaks seemingly every 10 minutes took me out of the story sometimes.

    I liked most things. Didn't like some things. No point in being pissed at the things that weren't explained or this season's mythology. I enjoyed the vast majority of Lost.
     
  17. May 24, 2010 #297 of 1741
    Turtleboy

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    They were dead. The same way your great great great great grandchildren are dead. Because everyone dies sometime. It's just that time has no meaning there.

    Weren't you listening to Christian?
     
  18. May 24, 2010 #298 of 1741
    cheesesteak

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    When Jack walked into the church, there was a back view of an angel statue. I immediately thought of Doctor Who's Weeping Angels and thought "Wouldn't it be cool if..."
     
  19. May 24, 2010 #299 of 1741
    SeanC

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    Dead from when? From what? So they were all dead from whenever, there was no plane ride, and these people just met in a dream someplace?

    Yeah, just the one time last night, right before I had to go to bed, I'll watch it again when I get home.
     
  20. May 24, 2010 #300 of 1741
    Turtleboy

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    Each person died at different times. Some before Jack, some long after. Every single thing not in the flash sideways happened, and everything in the flash sideways was after each individual person died at different times.

    How many times do we have to say this?
     

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