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Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by NoVa, Jun 27, 2013.

  1. CrispyCritter

    CrispyCritter Purple Ribbon Wearer

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    As far as I know, all TiVo remotes work with the Roamios. IR remotes definitely work. You'll be missing keys, the "Back" key in particular, and the ABCD keys aren't on old TiVo remotes, but I wouldn't expect any problems other than the obvious ones.
     
  2. RusRus

    RusRus New Member

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    Read my new post about the Tivo Learning Remote
     
  3. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Nice to know there are good choices for those with only one TiVo in any given room.

    Are there any that can do the same thing as the TiVo remotes with the 1-2 slide switch?
     
  4. buscuitboy

    buscuitboy New Member

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    I now see on the TiVo website how these Roamio DVRs have remotes that are IR/RF based. Good to know & glad they kept the IR option.
     
  5. mcmnky

    mcmnky New Member

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    Hello,

    I'm looking at the WR7 to replace a Harmony 890. I like the features of the Harmony, but find their remotes poorly made and short-lived.

    I have 2 questions for the WR7 owners:

    First, are the macros comparable to the activities on the Harmony? For example, I have a typical setup--TiVo, TV, receiver, optical disc player. I don't always use the receiver, so I have 2 disc player activities. One to turn on the TV, turn on player, and set the TV input to disc player. And a different activity to do all that, plus turn on the receiver and mute the TV.

    Are the WR7 macros for that kind of use?

    Second question, is it usable sitting on a flat surface? Thanks to TiVo, I'm not flipping around during commercials and I don't need my remote in hand at all times. My remote spends most of its time on the coffee table, but most remotes (even the TiVo peanut) are made to be held, with curved bottoms that rock and slide if you try to use them on a flat surface.

    From pictures, it looks like the WR7 has a mostly flat base. Does it work well sitting on a table?

    Thank you!


    Sean
     
  6. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    I replaced my Harmony 880 with a WR7 in March. Amazing capability for the price! I think it will do what you need and it does sit on a flat surface without wobbling. I had to replace the rechargeable battery in the 880 and it cost almost as much as the entire WR7. I see no justification for the bother and expense of rechargeable batts for a remote. The Harmony programming method was tedious and time consuming IMO. WR7 programming is fairly straightforward by comparison, and it includes the capability to learn commands from other remotes. Here is the manual for the WR7:
    http://www.universalremote.com/pdf/wr7_manual.pdf
     
  7. mcmnky

    mcmnky New Member

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    Thanks! I'd say it's hard to believe a Harmony remote costing hundreds of dollars could be replaced by a $20 remote, but that's not any less plausible than how poorly made those expensive remotes are.
     
  8. Edmund

    Edmund Remote Czar TCF Club

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  9. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    Hey, get the WR7 from Amazon, it's even a Prime item. Try it. 30 day return policy!
     
  10. hershey4

    hershey4 New Member

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    Never tried one of these before, but I really like the idea of backlit keys for the bedroom tv. The Tivo Peanut seems to have so much more though. How do you program Tivo Central? LiveTv? Clear? 8sec rewind?. zoom? THumbs UP/Down? (I don't really use those 2, but curious)

    Would I be able to program a macro to create a Timeout function? Currently, I have to use my television remote to press about a dozen keys to set TV sleep timer for 60 minutes. Can I do something like that? What button would it use? (thanks a bunch to Tivo upgrade for getting rid of the automatic 90 minute timeout)

    I think the colors and labels on the Tivo peanut are useful. If I assign universal buttons for some of those functions, do I just have to remember what the program is for that key. My memory is not as good as it used to be :)

    I looked at the WR7 on Amazon and it looks pretty good. Can't beat the price.

    It would be nice if Tivo came up with a Tivo-centric Universal Remote.
     
  11. dlfl

    dlfl Cranky old novice

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    I have three Video sources:
    Tivo, BluRay Player and Logitech Revue Google TV
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    A Sony Sound bar

    My default configuration is the Tivo feeding the TV via component cables and bypassing the sound bar. No HDMI connections involved and the Tivo peanut remote is used. There are two reasons for this:

    1. Nothing beats the peanut as a Tivo remote, although the WR7 can be programmed for at least partial control.
    2. My wife needs ultimate simplicity. With the default configuration she just uses the Tivo remote to turn the TV on/off, control volume, etc.

    The WR7 is programmed for single button toggling between default configuration and two other configurations:
    1. Google TV source --HDMI--> Sound Bar --HDMI--> TV
    2. Blu ray player --HDMI--> Sound Bar --HDMI--> TV

    With the Google TV source the WR7 is programmed for some control but the Logitech Revue keyboard is much preferable.

    With the Blu Ray source the WR7 can be used for all required control.

    Turning the Sound Bar and Blu Ray on/off and selecting Sound Bar HDMI input is all part of the single button macros.

    A variant of default configuration is to mute the TV component audio volume and get audio via the fiber optic sound coming out of the Tivo to the Sound Bar. The WR7 has buttons programmed to do this, and in general to control the Sound Bar menu items.

    If all the WR7 did was furnish the single button configuration switch capability it would be well worth the $20 to me, considering how many button pushes on several different remotes would otherwise be required.
     
  12. mcmnky

    mcmnky New Member

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    Has anyone used the URC R40 remote with TiVo?

    I tried the WR7, but it's not working out for me. Its macros couldn't hold enough pauses to wait for my TV to come completely to life before trying to change the input, and there were too many buttons missing (tivo, thumbs up/down, eject for disc player, etc.).

    I'm wondering if the R40 with the LCD screen is closer in features to the Harmony 890 I'm replacing.
     
  13. jbluemke

    jbluemke New Member

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    yeah, i didn't like that one either
     
  14. jbluemke

    jbluemke New Member

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    I heard good things about the URC R40 but never used it
     
  15. Edmund

    Edmund Remote Czar TCF Club

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  16. bigguy126

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    I'm using the R40 for my setup. I did get it to do everything I wanted. It is, for sure a bit of a learning curve. I had problems with their firmware in the beginning. THere is a bug in one of the versions where it forgets what you programmed. I bought on Amazon and returned 2 and still got the bad version. Had to send back to the company to get correct one. Firmware is not updatable. Easiest way to setup is to take EVERY remote you want it to learn and have it learn EACH key. Then program your macro's. It has been working pretty flawlessly. It does go through batteries pretty quickly. Like once a month. I got some rechargeable ones. Setup is Roamio, TV, Stereo receiver, Roku, DVD player, Cd player.
     
  17. mcmnky

    mcmnky New Member

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    The firmware issue with the R40 (keys loosing programming) seems to be fixed with the versions newer than 1.19.

    Support seems good, with many reports of units with older firmware being replaced at no charge with new remotes (within warranty). I've also seen reports that Amazon is sending out remotes with firmware 1.20.

    I like the features on the Xsight Touch ARRX18G from Acoustic Research, although it's an older model.

    I assume whichever way I go there will be much manual programming of keys. Functions like discrete on/off (not toggle) and setting the TV to a specific input are things not usually included (unless the remote software goes in to the level the detail like the Harmony).
     
  18. takeshi

    takeshi New Member

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    You might be better served by a model that has buttons that can be labeled. I use our old MX-350 (actually now new since it had to go in for service and they just replaced it with a new one) in the bedroom to control the Mini. It has 5 buttons to the right of the LCD screen and the labels for the buttons are customizable on the screen. You can assign up to 8 (IIRC) pages of such buttons to a device for a maximum of 40 such buttons for each device.

    The R40 mentioned above is another possibility. I got tired of having to rely on codes and learning so I went with the MX-980 for our main media room but it is a pricey remote intended for custom installers.

    I wouldn't expect them on URC's consumer line. They are, however, available on (at least some of) URC's professional line.
     
  19. cannonz

    cannonz Active Member

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    All universal remotes will have several Tivo codes for the 0-9 Tivo uses, 0 for any 1-9 unique. My inexpensive SRU5108/27 only has 0,1,2 I use 1 under cable and 2 under DVR to control 2 Tivos in one room, would have to use learning to use 3 or more. I do wonder if the expensive ones have more or maybe all the Tivo codes programmed in.
     
  20. CharlesH

    CharlesH Member

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    It took me a while to understand that the 1-2 switch on the TiVo remotes did not switch between code sets 1 and 2. Instead, they allow two arbitrary code sets to be selected. For example, switch position 1 could be set to code set 5 and switch position 2 could be set to code set 1.
     

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