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Longer Buffer

Discussion in 'TiVo Premiere DVRs' started by awax, Jun 16, 2012.

  1. porges

    porges Member

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    OK, who let Sheldon get a TiVo?
     
  2. JoeTaxpayer

    JoeTaxpayer Member

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    Understood. Appreciate the note.

    I'm with you. And I'm open to ideas, even those that prove mine to be a 'fail.' For example - I request my TiVo to record a show remotely, and get an email within an hour on average that that TiVo acknowledged the request. If it can't phone home frequently, this fast feature fails. Now, that's bad, but we probably agree reducing MTBF on the drives kills my idea even faster. Good to talk to you.
     
  3. lpwcomp

    lpwcomp Active Member

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    "Soft kitty, warm kitty, little ball of fur." :D
     
  4. aaronwt

    aaronwt UHD Addict

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    An Elite/XL4 draws around 22 watts. A two tuner Premiere draws arourd 24 watts.

    Sent from my HTC ReZound
     
  5. JoeTaxpayer

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    22W = $28.91/yr at 15 cents the KWH. Hardly worth going after the $20/yr one 'might' squeeze out. That's amazing since I'm looking at a series 2 single tuner showing 23W. I guess that's almost $30/yr in favor of the 4 tuner over 2 2 tuner models. Plus outlet fees, yada yada.

    This concludes my stupid green tangent. Thanks to all who participated.
     
  6. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    Such a long thread over something that has little value. I'd hate to see TiVo waste time on this. However, they eventually caved on the FSI so it wouldn't surprise me.

    I guess if such a feature has to be forced down everyone then at the very least make it configurable. I don't want to waste my hard drive space with needed size that would need to accompany the larger buffers.
     
  7. poofy

    poofy New Member

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    Yes Tivo, I want longer buffer. Please make it 90 minutes or at least 60 minutes.
     
  8. Jonathan_S

    Jonathan_S Active Member

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    5. Hack their TiVo to enable the longer buffer. Far more of a pain that it used to be, but I think it's still possible (may require a hardware prom modification)
     
  9. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    AFAIK there is no hardware modification for the Premiere that would allow for hacks.
     
  10. lessd

    lessd Active Member

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    If TiVo spent money doing that how many new subs would TiVo get?, would people rush out and purchase a new TiVo now, because it has a bigger buffer? I know a subset of experienced TiVo users may like a longer buffer, it would not be a negative if it did come about, but most TiVo users (not on this form) don't use much of the extra stuff TiVo now has, they just record and watch, many just have one TiVo so MRS or MRV itself has no meaning for them.
    Someone should do a poll about how many TiVo users use anything extra beyond MRV and MRS, such a You-tube (I have used it three times) Pictures from my computer to my TiVo (I have used it once) music (I never used that from my TiVo), purchase movie tickets (never for me) and i could go on and on. I sure some people use these features many times, but what % of users do that.
     
  11. JoeTaxpayer

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    You are right. Probably a small fraction.
    I happen to like using the TiVo to stream Pandora, and while around the basement tune in my 'station,' turn on the Stereo, turn the TV back off and let the TiVo stream Pandora. Probably me and 3 other guys.
     
  12. atmuscarella

    atmuscarella Well-Known Member

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    I think many of us on this forum have allot more "stuff" attached to our TVs than the typical household, so using our TiVo's for anything other than a DVR really isn't necessary.

    I do stream Pandora from my TiVo but I actually have 3 TiVos and 5 other devices (Roku, Netgear NeoTV, Logitech Revue, Panasonic Blu-Ray Player, & a HTPC) attached to my Receiver that can stream Pandora plus the receiver itself can also stream Pandora.

    Honestly if TiVo didn't do anything other than be a good DVR I wouldn't notice.
     
  13. freerule

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    There is at least one other easy option if a user can live with 480i. Send the output of the TiVo to an old ReplayTV with its disc sized buffer. But for most, why bother?
     
  14. djwilso

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    I must be one of the 3, because we use Pandora every weekend on the patio speakers while we're in the pool.

    As far as wanting a longer buffer, I would definitely like that. I do not use Suggestions and never have as I feel like it's a waste of time dealing with loads of shows I'll never, ever watch, and absolutely does not mean that I am using my TiVo less efficiently than those that do (to suggest such a thing is both arrogant and incorrect). So, my TiVo Elite is not recording a good deal of the time, and there have been many occasions where I'd like to back up and watch what happens to be on.

    That happened just today. My wife and I got home from a movie and Olympic diving was on NBC. It sure would have been cool to be able to back up to the beginning of that rather than only 30 minutes.

    To whoever feels that I should have taken the time to plan ahead and record this instead of just running into it on Live TV, I invite you to remain silent on the matter. :rolleyes:

    Oh, and I'm also an engineer. So there is that. I don't feel that my profession entitles me to elevate my opinions above those of others. What a pathetic joke.
     
  15. magnus

    magnus Tivo User

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    Actually since there is the ability to plan better then I'd say that this feature could wait for several others that would add real value to get more subscribers. An integrated NPL and network scheduling have much greater possibility for doing this than adding more to the buffer. I really want to see that list they had for mom, dad, etc.... When the premiere came out. There are so many great things they could do besides just adding to the buffer but hopefully they are asking through TiVo advisors before deciding that it should be high on the list.
     
  16. djwilso

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    I agree that increasing the buffer should never come before all the other requests.

    And TiVo should definitely work on preventing the box from rebooting at the first sign of lost Internet connection or bad cable signal WAY before thinking about buffers.

    I'm really waiting for the IP box to come out. I'd really like to retire my Series 3 depending on the IP box's capabilities.
     
  17. dboff01

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    As am I, the fellow with a lowly 13 posts on the Tivo forum. However, I did appreciate the education on the wonderful and magical technology behind the Tivo. :rolleyes:

    I too have never cared for the Suggestions feature and have always disabled it both on my Series 2 and now on my Premiere. Regarding the 30 minute buffer, it is too short on occasion, as you noted. Whether Tivo ever changes is not really a big deal, just a suggestion on a forum, not really worth arguing about one way or another.
     
  18. JoeTaxpayer

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    Very cool. In both senses.
     
  19. JoeTaxpayer

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    Yes, I know, if I wanted to see "Face the Nation" I should have recorded "Face The Nation."
    But anyway, at 11:20, i happened to turn on the TV, to watch a show I did record, and this happened to be on. It's an hour show, 10:30 to 11:30.
    I hit record, and the "my shows" told me I had the first 50 minutes all set.
    I don't use suggestions. This seems to tell me this TiVo is running a longer buffer.
     
  20. DonaldBurns65144

    DonaldBurns65144 New Member

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    Many channels have incorrect guide listings. There's been many times that I've turned on the TV and found a program that was not listed, but of interest, and advanced beyond the 30 minute buffer limit. Since the program is incorrectly listed there's no guaranty that it will be correct at some later time/date. A larger buffer would allow viewing from the beginning.
     

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