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Live streaming some channels on Tivo Mini keep freezing

Discussion in 'TiVo Mini' started by Interpol, Nov 16, 2013.

  1. blacknoi

    blacknoi Member

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    To follow up on my earlier post, after the reboot i was good for about another week.

    Then again yesterday, I was watching 'live' technically, but the roamio was recording more olympics, i had burned through all the delay I had and was watching live.

    All of a sudden the picture froze again as if the stream just stopped. I could REW through the buffer I had already watched, but couldnt move forward.

    Going back to the now playing list, and picking the same recording I was just watching fixed it for the rest of the night.

    I'm at a loss as to whats happening.

    No error on the mini, just a frozen picture at some point that was cured by starting the recording over and FF'ing back to live.

    As my house is wired for ethernet I have no intention of using Moca... at least not yet.

    But as someone else mentioned above, the wife has only so much tolerance. Normal tivo's "just work" all the time. Any deviation from this perfect track record has her asking me why I "upgraded" to a less stable solution.

    I'm ready to consider getting a 2nd roamio and take the mini back at this rate. I need stability.
     
  2. GoodHomer

    GoodHomer New Member

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    Another data point: Just got a new Roamio Basic and (2) TV Minis on Ethernet here. Had the same problem as the OP (albeit I didn't notice the brief error message): all live TV channels froze within a few seconds. Power cycling the Mini seems to have fixed it for now, but this is concerning.

    Did you end up replacing the Mini?
     
  3. bparker

    bparker New Member

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    With all the mini issues, am I better off to get another Premiere? It's more expensive of course, but possibly more reliable?
     
  4. CrispyCritter

    CrispyCritter Purple Ribbon Wearer

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    Not a chance.

    The Minis have had far fewer reported problems here than the Premieres. They are much simpler beasts. Many of the problems here are network problems, which will equally affect the two machines.

    There are always a few hardware DOA and other hardware issues with any electronics, and I would guess that a large percentage of them get reported here (for all TiVo models). Don't get scared off by those Mini reports - they really are outnumbered heavily by those without problems (certainly hundreds are owned by TIVo community members, and possibly thousands.)
     
  5. rrullo

    rrullo New Member

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    This is complete speculation on my part but the "freezing" just started to occur when my Mini had a software update. When I manually power off and on the Mini after an update my problem seems to resolve itself. Again, pure speculation, but maybe someone else noticed it.
     
  6. GoodHomer

    GoodHomer New Member

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    Might be jinxing myself but I haven't seen this since consistently using a Logitech remote that puts the Mini into sleep mode when turning off the system (the Logitech database has the Power Toggle code for the TiVO Mini). I understand the Mini eventually goes to sleep anyways, so this may not be related but wanted to let others know they could try something similar if they are having freezing problems.
     
  7. Caseman171

    Caseman171 New Member

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    I'm not the best with networking and I was hoping that someone could assist me in assigning a static IP to my roamio Pro and two minis. I am having the same issue as listed but both my live TV and recorded is freezing every frame or will not connect. My Netflix and internet options work fine. I have been at this attempting to fix for 30+ days.


    So far I've been getting the V112 error and the "network too slow" error. I have Comcast for ISP, Motorola DOCSIS 3.0 modem 348mbps, netgear nighthawk router, POE filter entering house, 2ghz splitters, brand new coax lines, cat 5e or 6 Ethernet - my internet is 25mpbs down and 10mpbs up.. Seems to be healthy. But the TiVo network does not.

    Right now I have to reset the roamio pro every 45 min to have the minis connect. The pro works perfectly. Any other suggestions would be welcomed.. Im committed to making this thing work!

    Thanks for your help
     
  8. dhoward

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    Has there been any solution to this freezing problem? My mini does this occasionally and if I do nothing the next day it is fine. When it acts up I just watch a per-recorded show and then eventually it fixes itself.
     
  9. GoodHomer

    GoodHomer New Member

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    FWIW, I haven't seen the freeze issue since I changed my Logitech remote to "power off" both the DVR and the Mini when not in use (note the DVR can still record and stream shows/live TV in that state). May not be related at all, but my thinking is that "cycling" the DVR and/or not leaving the TiVO mini running for hours before it automatically goes into standby mode is enough to keep it out of this bad state.
     
  10. Neilwltr

    Neilwltr New Member

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    Have the same issue here is what I have been able to determine.
    On the Roamio Plus if you watch a recorded show then the Mini will freeze, I only have one Mini so I can only talk about that.

    If the Roamio is in TV mode, not playing a recorded show then the Mini doesn't freeze up....

    TIVO - please address this issue course other folks out there that have multiple Mini's please post if this is true for all Minis in other words leave your Roamio on live TV and then try watching a taped show on multiple Mini's and see what happens.

    thanks.
     
  11. waynomo

    waynomo My One Time TCF Club

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    Had this problem on a recently installed Mini. Any live TV channel that I tuned too would play for a second or two and then freeze. I did a cold restart and all seems well right now, but it's not like the Mini hadn't been restarted several times already for different reasons. (Keeping my fingers crossed that this will fix it because my wife won't tolerate this for very long as it's on the kitchen TV that she watches all the time.)

    The mini is on a MOCA connection. I have Verizon FIOS with their standard Actiontec moden/Router.
     
  12. soobaerodude

    soobaerodude New Member

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    What revision of the Actiontec router do you have? You need at least a Rev. E or higher in order to have a MoCa 1.1 since the Mini is also MoCa 1.1
     
  13. waynomo

    waynomo My One Time TCF Club

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    Revision F.
    (I've been tempted to upgrade)
     
  14. wco81

    wco81 Member

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    It's not the networking setup.

    It's the **** firmware that Tivo still hasn't fixed.
     
  15. wardo99

    wardo99 New Member

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    Taking with TIVO support it sounds like the main issue is because the only device that understand the TV signals is my DVR, the live signal has to go to the DVR, it then has to decoded and sent back to the Mini. So my networking is in the basement and my DVR and Mini are upstairs. The signal comes upstairs, go to my DVR, gets translated, it is sent back downstairs to the moca box, and sent back up to the Mini. All trying to take place real time. When watching a recorded show it has already been translated so the DVR only has to send the signal to the moca and back to the mini. It just doesn't seem that well designed and the Mini should have a tuner to handle this issue.
    I have found that rather than reset my whole system I can go into the mini menu, select network stings and select talk to TIVO. That resets it for about as long and a full reset does. I also found that if I change my wide screen TV settings to only show a standard picture, the mini doesn't seem to have to take in as much data and it doesn't stall. Then we are back to watching a square image on a wide screen TV.

    No good solutions for this problem.
     
  16. justinmiller621

    justinmiller621 New Member

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    Are people still experiencing this? I'm still seeing it. Not super often though. Usually a reboot of the Roamio fixes things, though once or twice recently, I've had the mini completely lock up.

    I went to take a look at a mini in another room and it's perfectly mine (live tv does not freeze). As a test, I swapped the problematic one with the working one and it played live TV without issue.

    I almost hoped that it still froze up, at least that would point to a hardware problem with the mini which is cheaper to replace if necessary. But it didn't.

    Any thoughts/updates on this issue?
     
  17. krkaufman

    krkaufman Well-Known Member

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    Can you provide more information on your setup?

    How are your TiVo devices networked?

    Who is your TV provider? Do you have a tuning adapter?
     
  18. justinmiller621

    justinmiller621 New Member

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    All boxes used to be MoCa, though I recently switched the one problematic mini over to ethernet. One note though -- I was seeing these problems with both moca and ethernet, so it wasn't that change that was the culprit.

    So to be clear:

    Roamio -- moca
    Mini with issues -- ethernet
    Mini without issues -- moca

    Again, I want to stress that that change to ethernet was recent -- I was seeing problems long before that with moca.

    I'm with Verizon Fios. No tuning adapter.
     
  19. krkaufman

    krkaufman Well-Known Member

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    If you're up for it, you'll probably want to give a full debrief on how your devices are interconnected. See the following post for the sort of information needed: http://tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=10733254
     
  20. krkaufman

    krkaufman Well-Known Member

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    I'm a bit confused. If you switch both Minis, and switch their network connection methods, as needed, does the freezing problem continue? If so, on which Mini or at which location?
     

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