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List of SATA to PATA (IDE) adapters, please add yours

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by ciper, Jan 21, 2009.

  1. Jan 1, 2011 #101 of 233
    unitron

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    I use a couple of layers of that 3M double-sided white foam tape to secure that particular adapter to a drive--go look at the pictures of the adapter weaknees sells to see where to cut out to keep from overheating the ICs.

    In addition to keeping the IDE and power cable from pulling the SATA part loose, it electrically insulates all those solder points on the back of the adapter.

    You can bypass eBay and buy that same adapter from WOWparts.com or NSIoutlet.com--they're all the same people as partsdomain.
     
  2. lessd

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    And this relates to the subject how ??
     
  3. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Because you hook all this stuff up together and pray that it works? : - )


    (if religions can ban pork, why can't they tell their adherents "No Spam"?)
     
  4. lloydjs

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    Has anyone confirmed a SATA adapter and drive for a series1 SVR2000?
     
  5. unitron

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    The Rosewill RC-A-SATA-IDE (the cheapest), the Addonics ADSAIDE, or the Koutech IO-ASA120 will all work in a Series 1 (and all use the same chipset, the Marvell 88SA8052, unless you get an old Addonics, which uses an earlier version, the 88SA8040). The power hookup for the first two is a little "kludgy", and you'll probably want to secure the wires in place with electrical tape (Scotch 33+), or 3M Mounting Tape (white foam, sticky on both sides), or a combination thereof, and the otherwise excellent Koutech has a "makes the overall drive too long and gets too near the power supply" problem that can be gotten around by mounting it on the bracket "backwards" and getting a power extension (preferably with a small fan attached that can be mounted under the drive).

    What size SATA drive were you planning to use?
     
  6. lloydjs

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    Hi unitron,

    I currently have two drives (160GB and 120GB). The drives are about 5 years old.
    I am thinking about replacing them with a single 1TB sata drive but am open to recommendations - dual sata drives, dual large (500GB) IDE drives, a single 2TB sata drive, one sata and one IDE, etc.

    Here are my reasons for leaning towards a single sata drive:
    - faster disk access
    - quieter
    - less power consumption
    - better compatibility - I tried two new large IDEs recently (500GB and 320GB) but both failed

    However, my assumptions above could be incorrect. Can you let me know of any other reasons to switch to sata?
     
  7. Feb 2, 2011 #107 of 233
    unitron

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    Best reason to switch to SATA on S1 and S2 machines? Easy. Cheaper per GB than IDE and available bigger than 500GB (I think there were a few 640 and 750 IDE drives made, but if you find them they'll cost an arm and a leg and your firstborn).
     
  8. Feb 2, 2011 #108 of 233
    lloydjs

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    I found a 500GB drive for $90 on Amazon, not bad. Besides price, are the other advantages I listed correct?
     
  9. Feb 2, 2011 #109 of 233
    unitron

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    You can get a 2TB drive for $90, although a Series 1 can't use one that big, but my point is that that's a lot of money for only 500GB.
     
  10. Feb 7, 2011 #110 of 233
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    Reading and reading.....

    Can anyone recommend a HD and SATA->IDE adapter that would work with a
    TCD 5400080 and also a TCD 5400040.

    Something up around 1TB is what I am looking for.

    WD10EVVS or WD10000CSRTL perhaps with the wowdomain adapter?

    thanks
     
  11. Feb 8, 2011 #111 of 233
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    ----following edited 02/08/2011 because I'm an idiot---

    WD10000CSRTL is NOT* the number they put on the retail box with a

    WD1001FALS

    inside. It's a Caviar Black.

    *(The number is actually WD10000LSRTL)

    ----end edited section----

    I got two of them off of the shelf at the local Best Buy.

    Got a third one shipped to me by Best Buy, same drive, same box, but the label has

    WDBAAZ0010HNC-NRSN

    instead of

    WD10000CSRTL

    Using 2 of them in one Series 2 double tuner and the 3rd in another of the same model TiVo. So far, so good.

    I'm using the LK-13415 adapters from NSIoutlet.com (who turned out to be WOWparts, who are partsdomainauction on eBay), and a third adapter that's almost the same (same chipset) from some outfit called Avolusion.

    I can't swear that they'll work in any other S2 than the TCD649080 (and, one would assume, the TCD649180), but I don't know of any reason they shouldn't.
     
  12. Feb 8, 2011 #112 of 233
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    Thank you for your reply Unitron.

    I looked at WD10000CSRTL at BestBuy and it shows as a Green not Black drive....odd. Any thoughts on that? I read previously green drives can be problematic.

    hXXp://www.bestbuy.ca/en-CA/product/western-digital-caviar-green-1tb-3-5-desktop-internal-hard-drive-wd10000csrtl/10115790.aspx?path=acad04a4f01351d09d32a788a0905041en02
     
  13. Feb 8, 2011 #113 of 233
    unitron

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    That's what I get for relying on memory.

    The

    WDBAAZ0010HNC-NRSN

    is correct, I was looking at the box when I typed it.

    HOWEVER,

    the in-store number for the Black is


    WD10000LSRTL


    not WD10000CSRTL

    so "my whoopsie".

    Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got a previous post to edit.


    P.S.

    The "Green" problem is with the "intellipark" feature, and the need to run "wdidle" or something like that on some of them.

    Go to the last page of this thread

    http://www.tivocommunity.com/tivo-vb/showthread.php?p=5616160#post5616160


    and then back up a year or two and you should find out what you need to know about that.
     
  14. Feb 8, 2011 #114 of 233
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  15. lloydjs

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    • Did it work?: yes!
    • TiVo Model: series1 Sony SVR2000
    • Hard drive model: WESTERN DIGITAL - Caviar 1TB (WD10EAVS)
    • Adapter retail name: ROSEWILL|RC-A-SATA-IDE R
    • Purchased from / Price: drive pruchased from ServerSupply for $75 free shipping; adapter purchased from Newegg for $15 plus $2 shipping.
    • Chipset on the adapter: Marvell 88SA8052

    I want to send a big THANK YOU to unitron for educating me on adapters.
     
  16. SMWinnie

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    Did it work?: NO
    TiVo Model: TCD540040
    Hard drive model: WD5000AADS (WD 500GB Caviar Green)
    Adapter retail name: Generic SATA/PATA adapter. PCB labeled "Model: RPCT012" with open 2x2 jumper pad
    Purchased from / Price: HDE Shop through Amazon.com marketplace
    Chipset on the adapter: Sunplus SATALink SPIF223A-HL022

    Jumpered the WD5000AADS for SATA1 (1.5Gb/s) and placed a cardboard spacer between the SATA/PATA adapter and the drive. (Without the spacer, the pins of the IDE bracket were touching the drive.) Fired up TiVo and got permanent "Welcome! Powering up..." screen.

    Yanked, shelved and ordered NewEgg's $17 Rosewill adapter. Will check in when it gets here.
     
  17. unitron

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    That's the same chipset as used on the

    HXSP-071218

    which has been confirmed to not work in Series 1s, and is kind of flakey in S2s.

    That Rosewill will also work in a Series 1.

    Have you checked to see if you need to worry about the Intellipark issue?
     
  18. SMWinnie

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    I need to mark my submission as unreliable data. I got the Rosewill adapter from NewEgg and had the same trouble. So, I: pulled the new drive; reran WDIDLE3 to disable Intellipark; used WinMFS to make a truncated backup of the old Seagate PATA drive; restored the backup to the Caviar Green and expanded - using the Rosewill adapter; and popped the Caviar into the 540.

    Powering Up...GSOD...two hours...reboot...Welcome to TiVo animation.

    So, I have a functioning (and much quieter) 500GB TiVo now but I have no idea what was broken the first time. For all I know, the $3 SPIF223A-HL022 adapter was not the problem.

    And I am in no way curious enough to crack open the case and do some testing.
     
  19. unitron

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    Based on my experience with the SunPlus chipset, I'm going to have greater peace of mind on your behalf that you're using the Rosewill instead.

    I have yet to see any evidence to the contrary that "If it works in a Series 1, it'll work in anything".
     
  20. NetWrench

    NetWrench Tivo Dweeb 3rd Class

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    Appreciate this thread, very helpful.

    Just ordered the "PATA/IDE TO Serial ATA SATA Adapter For 2.5/3.5 SATA HD" adapter from Partsdom, I'll post once I give it a shake in my HR-10 250.

    BTW, posting Ebay links is a waste of time (long term) as they expire in 90 days. I did a lot of useless clicking, but I am good at it. Better to post the salient contents of the listing, so others can figure out.

    Here's what Partdom ($6.99 shipped) says about this listing:
    "Use the Jmicron 20330 controller (devices such as the 8300HD PVR only works with this controller for hard disk upgrade)."

    Could I go with 2 TB reliably instead of just 1 TB? Does the LBA48 have anything to do with these adapters?
     

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