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List of SATA to PATA (IDE) adapters, please add yours

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by ciper, Jan 21, 2009.

  1. Mar 12, 2010 #61 of 233
    whitepelican

    whitepelican New Member

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    I bought the adapter from Weaknees quite a while back. It was the same chipset as the one you're using - JM20330.
     
  2. Mar 15, 2010 #62 of 233
    jpz2

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    Did it work?: No
    TiVo Model: Philips DSR704
    Hard drive model: WD5000CSRTL Western Digital Green 500GB
    Adapter retail name: LK-13415
    Purchased from / Price: wowparts.com $5.99
    Chipset on the adapter: JM20330

    Baked my Harddrive with Instantcake and Ptvnet when I install it back in my 704 it goes to the powering up screen and hangs on me. Any suggestions? Is it my harddrive that the unit doesn't like or might it be a bad image write from Instantcake? Because I've seen others with this setup that had success so I'm just hoping to find a solution.

    Any help would be appreciated.

    Thanks, JP
     
  3. Mar 15, 2010 #63 of 233
    robomeister

    robomeister DVD TiVo Expert

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    jpz2,

    It is probably because you are using a WD Green drive. Those drives have that stupid Intellipark feature on them which doesn't seem to work on Series2 TiVos. I tried to use a 1TB WD Green drive using the SATA to PATA converter, and had no luck. If you can, return the drive and exchange it for a WD Blue (Caviar SE 16).

    You might be able to disable or turn off the Intellipark feature in the Green drive. Look at the Drive Upgrade thread in the Series3 forum. It has tons of data on good and bad drives. They also have links to software that will deal with the WD Green drives.

    Good luck,
    robomeister
     
  4. Mar 15, 2010 #64 of 233
    jpz2

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    robomeister,

    Thanks a lot for getting back to me. I don't know if I can return the drive as I'm not sure on BB's return policy but I will take a look at the other forum to see if I can find some software to unlock it.

    I actually ended up getting the drive to work after disabling the intellipark.

    Thanks again.
     
  5. Mar 16, 2010 #65 of 233
    jpz2

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    Now the issue I have is if there is a lot of movement on the screen the image gets garbled like if I'm in a thunderstorm. Is this something to do with a slow harddrive (it only has an 8mb cache) or is this something bad with the image?

    Thanks again,
     
  6. Mar 16, 2010 #66 of 233
    robomeister

    robomeister DVD TiVo Expert

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    jpz2,

    That sounds like either a bad image or bad hardware.

    I don't think the speed of the drive would affect the image. The original drives in most Series2 TiVos were 5400RPM and 2MB cache. The actual reading and writing of the drive is not that much compared to a PC. So the extra speed of newer drives (7200RPM) just generates more heat in a TiVo. And a hard drive's cache is needed if the hard drive has to read from the same portion of the disk more than once. This doesn't happen that often on a DVR, so a big cache is wasted.

    So, to summarize, try a new image. If you need a different image to try, I might have one. Send me a PM with the model of your TiVo and I'll see if it is on my list.

    Good luck,
    robomeister
     
  7. Mar 16, 2010 #67 of 233
    jpz2

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    Thanks a lot for all your help.

    The image I have is an Instantcake CD from Ptvupgrade so I believe it is good. I'll try baking it again, as I don't think it is the hardware as the unit works fine with the other HD I was using.


    Thanks.
     
  8. Mar 17, 2010 #68 of 233
    jpz2

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  9. Mar 19, 2010 #69 of 233
    ronsch

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    Has anyone successfully used a SATA drive in a DSR6000?

    If so, what combination of adapter/chip set and hard drive?
     
  10. Mar 19, 2010 #70 of 233
    smw6230

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    Did it work?: Yes
    TiVo Model: Philips HDR312
    Hard drive model: Seagate (DB35.3) ST3750840SCE 750gb SATA
    Adapter retail name: Addonics ADSAIDE SATA to IDE-ATAPI Converter
    Purchased from / Price: Ebay $20.24 +shipping (Amazon.com also has them for the same price).
    Chipset on the adapter: Not sure

    Overall I'm very happy. While the adapter was close to $30 bucks w/shipping it works flawlessly. The way I figured it the cost for a brand new quality DVR specific IDE drive, 500gb and up, was was about $60. On top of that they're getting harder to find everyday. Since I could get a brand new DB35 drive with warranty for 62 shipped it made sense for me to spend the extra cash for the adapter so that I could utilize the best drive that I could for the Tivo.
     
  11. Mar 19, 2010 #71 of 233
    transam9898

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  12. Mar 19, 2010 #72 of 233
    smw6230

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  13. Mar 25, 2010 #73 of 233
    binky123

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    Did it work?: Yes
    TiVo Model: HR10-250
    Hard drive model: WD7500AADS Western Digital Caviar Green 750GB
    Adapter retail name: Pata&Sata WLXKJ-863B
    Purchased from / Price: ebay partsdomauction $6
    Chipset on the adapter: JM20330

    Did it work?: Yes
    TiVo Model: HR10-250
    Hard drive model: WD7500AADS Western Digital Caviar Green 750GB
    Adapter retail name: Rosewill RC-203
    Purchased from / Price: newegg.com $20
    Chipset on the adapter: 88SA8040-TBC1

    Stuck on Powering up msg. The JM20330 seemed to work better as I was able to boot up manually. Serial port console displays
    ide_read_sector timed out
    autoboot failed to read boot sector
    Device on dev=13 fnc=0 port=0
    watch_td timing out.
    init there is no device

    Tried both adapters in a PC with same disk and it was fine.

    Update: I ran the wdidle3.exe /d program and was able to change the timer from the default 8sec to 62.5min. Both sata-ide adapters work with the drives.
     
  14. Mar 25, 2010 #74 of 233
    whitepelican

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  15. Apr 15, 2010 #75 of 233
    capkj

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    Did it work?: YES!
    TiVo Model:TCD24040040
    Hard drive model: hitachi hds721050cla362
    Adapter retail name: LK-13415
    Purchased from / Price: EBAY SELLER: PARTSDOM AUCTION / 6.99 W FREE SHIP
    Chipset on the adapter: JM20330


    I got this hard drive in a usb external enclosure for 49.00 and it works great!
     
  16. Apr 15, 2010 #76 of 233
    unitron

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    How about sell me a couple of them to try in a Series 1?

    I'm unitron and you can reply to me at coastalnet.com

    regards,

    unitron
     
  17. Apr 15, 2010 #77 of 233
    unitron

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    You've just answered your own question. All those little ones and zeros have to go down the wire from one drive, and instead of getting DMA'ed right over to the other IDE controller (or one of the SATA controllers), they have to get stored in memory and then turned around and sent back up the same wire to the second drive while a "shut up" signal is sent to the first drive, and the CPU has to be referree-ing all of this. Then the second drive acknowledges having gotten the bunch of bits and it has to shut up while the first drive sends another batch which gets stored and turned around.

    Going from a drive on one controller to a second drive on a different controller lets you use DMA--Direct Memory Access-- that takes the CPU pretty much out of the loop and let's the controllers run things.
     
  18. Apr 25, 2010 #78 of 233
    unitron

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    I'm posting this reply to hit the 5 post mark so that I can PM you to see if you still have it (sitting around unused) and want to sell.

    I can be reached at coastalnet.com
     
  19. Apr 30, 2010 #79 of 233
    unitron

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    Has anyone tried the VinPowerDigital IDESA1.0, which has the circuit board turned 90 degrees to everyone else's?


    Has anyone tried the Koutech ASA120, which is the most professional looking one I've seen yet, completely enclosed, standard connector placement, 6 pin Master/Slave/(and maybe cable select) jumper set header?

    If so, with which TiVo and which drive and what failure or success?

    Also, anyone tried them in a regular PC?
     
  20. May 13, 2010 #80 of 233
    rbautch

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    Did it work?: No
    TiVo Model: Philips Hughes HDVR2, DSR7000
    Hard drive model: Segate 300GB
    Adapter retail name: LK-13415
    Purchased from / Price: wowparts.com $5.99
    Chipset on the adapter: JM20330

    Did it work?: Yes
    TiVo Model: Philips Hughes HDVR2
    Hard drive model: Segate 300GB
    Adapter retail name: Rosewill RC-203
    Purchased from / Price: newegg.com $20 (No longer available)
    Chipset on the adapter: 88SA8040-TBC1

    I wish the Rosewill adapters were still available. That's the only one I could ever get to work. Anyone know of a cheap adapter that's not the JM20330 chipset? This one looks promising, but these things aint worth $30. It also looks surprisingly like the Rosewill adapter I paid $5 for a few years ago.
     

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