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List of SATA to PATA (IDE) adapters, please add yours

Discussion in 'TiVo Upgrade Center' started by ciper, Jan 21, 2009.

  1. CrashHD

    CrashHD I am the me.

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    2x2TB is not believed be possible. It is said tivoapp cannot handle more than 2TiB of mfs address space, or something like that. I believe it is the tivoHD that was the first to use a 64 bit mfs, and even it cannot get past 2 TiB.

    That was the point I was working at when I commented about dual drive setups. It is now possible to get a tivo to the maximum capacity it can handle with a single disk.
     
  2. SouthTivo

    SouthTivo New Member

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    And the insight is appreciated. Upgrading is more like alchemy than science.

    Here's the partition map from the 250, which still works. It's currently copying again to the 1TB, but this time I will not expand. Just want to see if it will boot with any of the SATA-IDE adapters. Got plenty to try now.


    Code:
    Partition Maps
     #:                  type name                            length base      ( size  )
      1   Apple_partition_map Apple                               63@1         (  31.5K)
      2                 Image Bootstrap 1                       4096@64        (   2.0M)
      3                 Image Kernel 1                          4096@4160      (   2.0M)
      4                  Ext2 Root 1                          262144@8256      ( 128.0M)
      5                 Image Bootstrap 2                       4096@270400    (   2.0M)
      6                 Image Kernel 2                          4096@274496    (   2.0M)
      7                  Ext2 Root 2                          262144@278592    ( 128.0M)
      8                  Swap Linux swap                      262144@540736    ( 128.0M)
      9                  Ext2 /var                            262144@802880    ( 128.0M)
     10                   MFS MFS application region         1048576@1065024   ( 512.0M)
     11                   MFS MFS media region              33100800@2113600   (  15.8G)
     12                   MFS Second MFS application region   1048576@35214400  ( 512.0M)
     13                   MFS Second MFS media region       44161024@36262976  (  21.1G)
     14                   MFS Third MFS application region      1024@80424000  ( 512.0K)
     15                   MFS Expanded MFS by MFSLive      407971840@80425024  ( 194.5G)
    Same number of partitions. Just resized some. The swap part is bigger on the 1TB following some of the advice for large drives.
     
  3. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    I don't suppose there's any hope of the partition table from the 80 that came in between the 40 and the 250?

    Apparently WinMFS was able to either take the 3rd MFS pair which had been created by MFS Live and enlarge them (specifically the media one) when you went from the 250 to the 1TB, or else it copied the other 13 partitions and replaced the last 2 and somehow it didn't cost you any shows that you noticed.

    But that doesn't solve the mystery of how MFS Live could move you from the 40 to the 80 and then to the 250 without tripping over the 3rd pair added when you went to the 80.

    And it looks like I need to re-read the WinMFS documentation.
     
  4. unitron

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    But theoretically you could put a single 2TB in an S1 Philips that came from the factory with a 14GB Quantum?
     
  5. CrashHD

    CrashHD I am the me.

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    I don't know, S1's were before my time. I don't even know if the S1's had LBA48 kernels.
     
  6. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Not from the factory, you had to patch it, but if you have an old enough computer you can do so via the copykern utility.

    Before that you had to use stuff like Todd Miller's tpip and actually know what you were doing.
     
  7. SouthTivo

    SouthTivo New Member

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    That 80 was repurposed for a PC and later failed. So unfortunately not going to be of any use.

    The good news is, SUCCESS! The SDDVR40 is up and running with 884 hours capacity, and all recordings retained.

    Ended up using WinMFS again and recopied the data from old IDE to new drive with the SATA - IDE converter in place just as it would be on the Tivo. Also set the swap for 256 instead of 512. So one of those things did it.

    The LK-13415 SATA - IDE adapter worked perfectly, so I'll go update my earlier post. :)

    Thanks for all the support!
     
  8. tkoyn

    tkoyn New Member

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    What SATA to PATA adapter is currently available and recommended for a Tivo Series 2 240080 model.

    I have upgraded it from the original 80 to 160 gb, and then to 500gb with another PATA drive about 4 years ago. Drive is aging and I want to replace it with at lease equal capacity (ok to upgrade to 1TB too), but want to keep all shows.

    What adapter should I get and procedure should I follow these days, since I can't buy a new PATA 500gb drive anymore unless I want to pay more at some crackpot vendor or ebay seller and risk getting a refurb/used drive?

    What SATA drives are recommended for use (with adapter) in a Series 2?

    Just want to get something that is known to work in the 500GB to 1TB range for my aging Series 2.

    Thanks
     
  9. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    Happen to have that very same model S2 sitting slightly off to my left at the moment.

    At this point you should use the free version of TiVo Desktop to transfer off all of the shows to a very large NTFS partition (FAT32 file size limit turns 2 hour shows into 1 hour, 55 minute shows)


    You, I am certain, already have the maximum number per drive of MFS pair partitions. (3 pair, or 6 partitions)

    I'm not certain if WinMFS will let you go from a 500GB to a 1TB by enlarging existing partitions or not.

    The MFS Live cd v1.4 won't (but you should still have a copy on hand for other stuff)

    A Marvell chipset based adapter will work in an S1 or S2, and you can find them discussed earlier in this thread.

    A JMicron chipset based adapter will work in an S2 (just not in the finicky S1s) and probably be a little cheaper.

    The one Weaknees sells will work in your unit.

    This one should work also

    http://www.nsioutlet.com/store/products/021304-01050.html

    if it's the one they picture and the specs haven't changed.

    I bought 2 of them back in 2010 I think it was, and am using them in S2s right now.

    The drives I know about that will work are not necessarily available anymore.

    The trick may be getting one made before last fall's floods in Thailand, not to mention Seagate borging Samsung and WD borging Hitachi.

    Newegg is still advertising the Samsung HD103SJ, at about twice what I paid about a year ago.

    If they actually send you what they show, and not a rebadged Seagate, or a newer "advanced format" verison hiding under the old model number, it should work, although 7200RPM is faster than the TiVo can take advantage of, so all you gain over a 5400 or thereabouts is extra heat.

    A pre-advanced format WD10EADS or WD10EACS and maybe a WD10EARS should work after you disable Intellipark.

    Pre-advanced format Caviar Blues and Caviar Blacks should work, although again the 7200RPM speed is wasted.

    If you haven't read this thead from the very beginning, go back and do so.
     
  10. Aug 1, 2012 #190 of 233
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    unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    That eBay seller--partsdomauction--and wowparts and nsioutlet are all the same people and it should be the same adapter.

    Jumper on for Master, off for slave.

    That one should work just fine in an S2.

    It's what I'm using in several of them.

    Or you could get the one from Weaknees, it's JMicron as well.

    One of the Marvell chipset based adapters, which are the only ones which work in a Series 1, would work just as well in an S2 as the JMicron, but would likely cost more.
     
  12. calric

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    hi; just wanted to report my findings with my S2 DT TCD649080;

    maxtor model 6l300r0 doesn't seem to be working
    WD wd2500bb - 22rda0 wd caviar appears to work just fine so far.
     
  13. Oct 2, 2012 #193 of 233
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    I bought the partsdom adapter with the Jmicron chipset for use in my S2 DTivos (Samsung SIR-4080R). I am using this in conjunction with a WD 10EVVS 1TB drive. For some reason the drive doesn't boot up (I put a fresh image using instant cake). I have been racking my brain on why this could be, I tried it with the jumper on and off the adapter board, but no difference.

    The only thing I can think of at the moment is maybe I need to set a jumper on the drive to enable 150MB/s data transfer?

    Hoping someone has some experience with this...

    thanks in advance...
     
  14. Oct 2, 2012 #194 of 233
    unitron

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    If that's an early S2, it might be S1-ish enough to need a Marvell chipset based adapter.

    (fotunately newegg has a Rosewill and one other brand down under $15 now)

    But first, run wdidle3 on that WD drive.

    If it won't let you disable, set it to 300 seconds.

    Then look for documentation on that jumper setting.

    It might say something about PHY

    Go ahead and set it for 1.5

    If it works, try it again with the jumper off.

    If it still works, go ahead and put the jumper back on.

    If you don't let the drive make a decision, it won't make the wrong one or get stuck trying to make it.
     
  15. Oct 2, 2012 #195 of 233
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    Thanks I will give this a try. I am on the road for 2 weeks but will report back right after with success (hopefully) or failure.
     
  16. ronsch

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    Did it work?: Yes
    TiVo Model: Philips DSR6000
    Hard drive model: Western Digital WD AV-GP WD5000AVDS
    Adapter retail name: Rosewill RC-A-SATA-IDE
    Purchased from / Price: Newegg/$9.99
    Chipset on the adapter: Unknown

    I bought the drive/adapter when I thought my current IDE drive was about to go belly-up during the recent DTV Guide Data fiasco. I completed a backup/restore from an IDE to the SATA drive in my XP/IDE computer with the adapter and then booted it up in the TiVo to test. I only had the unit up for a couple of minutes but it did boot and was able to play back recordings.
     
  17. unitron

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    The chipset on that adapter is the Marvell, which is what's needed for Series 1 TiVos.

    The Marvell is sort of the universal donor. I've never seen an instance where it didn't work and some other chipset did.
     
  18. ronsch

    ronsch Active Member

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    I know you had previously posted that it uses the Marvell chipset but since I could find nothing on the Newegg or Rosewill web sites to that effect I decided to leave it as unknown.
     
  19. unitron

    unitron Active Member

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    You can look at that square black thing with all the silver legs on the adapter itself and see the stylized "M" printed on it.
     
  20. vegas4x4

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    Did it work?: Yes
    TiVo Model: Tivo TCD649080 Series 2 Dual Tuner
    Hard drive model: Segate Barracuda ST500DM002 500gb
    Adapter retail name: Unknown marked "PATA & SATA 863B"
    Purchased from / Price: WOWParts / $4.69 w/ free shipping
    Chipset on the adapter: Unknown

    Just bought the hard drive and SATA to PATA adapter. I used an image I found here on forum with WinMFS and was up and running in about 5 minutes. Awesome forum! Hope this info helps someone.
     

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