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Lifetime Service Resurrected

Discussion in 'TiVo Coffee House - TiVo Discussion' started by davezatz, May 15, 2008.

  1. May 15, 2008 #1 of 173
    davezatz

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    I received word last night that Lifetime Service is being permanently resurrected out of promotional status. (Well, as permanent as these things go...) Not sure how good a deal it is ($399/year or $299/year for secondary units), but wanted to share.
     
  2. May 15, 2008 #2 of 173
    atmuscarella

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    If you log into your TiVo account and select "Price Plans" The $299.00 is showing up know as an option now.

    Thanks,
     
  3. May 15, 2008 #3 of 173
    Amnesia

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    I thought the reason TiVo got rid of Lifetime service was that it wasn't cost-effective. What changed?
     
  4. May 15, 2008 #4 of 173
    dswallow

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    After 10 years, that'd have cost $3,990 and $2,990, respectively. Not much of a bargain! Did TiVo mention why they'd charge annually for lifetime on a unit?

    :p
     
  5. May 15, 2008 #5 of 173
    davezatz

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    Crap, I broke my rule of no posting prior to morning coffee. ;)
     
  6. May 15, 2008 #6 of 173
    fallingwater

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    Good for TiVo! The option of Lifetime Service for $399 (or $299 for additional units) is apparently good for TiVo and definitely good for its customers regardless of which payment plan they ultimately choose. :)

    https://www3.tivo.com/store/home.do
    (Click on TiVo service pricing.)

    Existing TiVo customers now also have the options of monthly service for $9.95 or annual service for $99.95 on additional units!
     
  7. May 15, 2008 #7 of 173
    clam729

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    All of my units (and units I bought for others - 8 total) are on Lifetime except one. That one is monthly. Is it possible to switch that to Lifetime now ? The last time I checked I was told I could deactivate the Tivo - add it to my Account - lifetime it - then give it back to my brother.

    Would be much easier if I could just upgrade his in place.

    UPDATE : I logged into my brother's account. I can add a new S2 DT w/Lifetime for $389. If I ordered that and have it shipped to him - he'll have 2 TiVo's - the original (on monthly) and the new (on Lifetime). Once he receives the new one, then I could cancel the monthly one, right ? I'll just have him ship it to back to me - maybe I'll add it to my account (for a fourth).

    This way, he is getting Lifetime and a new S2 DT - seems like a better way to go, right ?
     
  8. May 15, 2008 #8 of 173
    Doh

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    I don't understand the $399/299. Now, $399 is only available to tivo owners, but they have no problem if I buy it and then give to a friend. Is the same true of the $299 option, or are they somehow going to try and monitor (like with MSD) whether it's still at my house? What if I buy it, and have it at my house for a couple of years, and then decide to sell it? Will it lose lifetime? That doesn't seem like such a good deal.
     
  9. May 15, 2008 #9 of 173
    DrewTivo

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    Yeah, I could use some clarification on the $299 option more generally.

    Does it mean that you have to have at least one other machine that is either lifetime (at $399 or earlier purchase) or is on a full-price subscription?

    What would happen if after buying the $299 sub you dropped the full-price unit (say, because the contract ran out)?
     
  10. May 15, 2008 #10 of 173
    DrewTivo

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    Presumably at the time they thought that they were better off getting $299 for 3 years instead of for a lifetime. Now maybe they've concluded that $400 is better than $300 and that people upgrade their units frequently enough that it's not really costing them much. That is, if the typical Tivo person buys another tivo after 3 years they would typically replace the old unit anyway, so letting them keep the second unit with "free" service (i.e., continued lifetime) isn't really giving up revenue, but is consumer friendly.
     
  11. May 15, 2008 #11 of 173
    Adam1115

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    This is my question as well.
     
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    Adam1115

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    dswallow

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    DrewTivo

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    That has nothing to do with anything. If it was profitable before Dish, it's profitable now. If not, not. I'm guessing they learned from the "limited" availability of lifetime that it was a good idea--clearly Tivo hasn't figured out consumer behavior very well, which is why they keep changing their pricing plan options.
     
  15. May 15, 2008 #15 of 173
    cliffr39

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    I'm not sure $400 is a good price just to get the guide data - that's really all it is... can't be that expensive for them to harvest it from tvguide.com... and to grace me with allowing me to use equipment I purchased (since you cannot record without service).
     
  16. May 15, 2008 #16 of 173
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    I don't recall the exact time-frame of that assessment, but it was four or five years ago that I read about that in one of their annual reports.

    In addition to the lifetime service costing more now, TiVo actually makes money on the sale of their DVRs, instead of losing money or breaking even, which during that prior time-frame, was part of the equation.

    Its also possible that they've lowered their costs associated with offering the service, so that may also make it financially attractive to offer the lifetime once again, but that is just speculation on my part.

    All in all, I wouldn't apply the assessment of five years ago to today's circumstances; clearly a lot has changed internally and externally for TiVo.

    I'm just glad that the lifetime is now available to everyone, and not just existing customers; we've had a lot of folks, especially DIRECTV / TiVo customers with lifetime on their older DirecTiVo boxes that have been ineligible for these promotions.

    Lou
     
  17. May 15, 2008 #17 of 173
    tivoupgrade

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    If you use the equipment for more than 31 months, it is a good deal. Especially if you consider selling your unit somewhere down the line, because that lifetime service will retain a good portion of its value (if not all of it) to the next person who ends up using it.
     
  18. May 15, 2008 #18 of 173
    GoHokies!

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    You can't just scrape listings from tvguide.com and use them for commercial purposes.

    Tivo buys their guide data from Tribune Media, and you can bet that it's for commercial purposes, the rates aren't as cheap as you would think.

    Not to mention that you're also paying for support and continued software development, bringing the addition of features that make a Tivo "a Tivo" and not just some run on the mill cableco DVR that does one thing (poorly).
     
  19. May 15, 2008 #19 of 173
    nirisahn

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    I'm not clear on the $399 vs. $299. If I already own a TiVo or 2 and I buy a new one, will I pay $399 or $299 for service? Or is it if I buy 2 or more new TiVos that I pay $399 for the first TiVo and $299 for any additional TiVos?

    I just went to tivo.com to check this out and it has $399 for lifetime, but that it expired 2/18/08 and that $299 is for three years. There must be another link that I missed.
     
  20. May 15, 2008 #20 of 173
    MickeS

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    Cool.
    I have one Series 2 with lifetime, and one Series 3 with MSD at $6.95/month, with two years remaining. If I bought a third TiVo (TiVoHD), would I be able to put Lifetime on it for $299?

    Would I be able to transfer my MSD service to the new TiVoHD and buy Lifetime for the Series 3? Which one do you guys think is the unit with the most longevity, Series 3 or TiVoHD?
     

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