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Leno out, Fallon in perhaps?

Discussion in 'Now Playing - TV Show Talk' started by scottjf8, Mar 3, 2013.

  1. Apr 4, 2013 #101 of 123

    gschrock Member

    Dec 27, 2001
    holt, mi
    I think Fallon is ok, but he's definitely still somewhat in the awkward stage, where he doesn't seem to be completely comfortable in his job, and I do kinda wonder how that will work out when he's moved to the earlier show. Now, I honestly feel the Roots are a far better band than what's currently on the tonight show though.

    I've gotten to the point where I don't watch much much of the nightly talk shows anymore. Used to watch both Leno and Dave, then I found Dave starting to get more and more annoying. Conan I've never liked.
  2. Apr 5, 2013 #102 of 123

    FilmCritic3000 Active Member

    Oct 28, 2004
    Letterman gets the last laugh, as he'll have outlasted Leno, which I love; rumors swirl he might retire in 2014 & Jon Stewart would get offered the spot. But Letterman controls his timeslot and the one after his, plus he gets to pick his successor - it's in his contract. Letterman likes Stewart, but I think he will wait until Conan's recently renewed (through November 2015) tbs contract expires, then offer him "Late Night". Letterman's relationship with Conan is very much like Dave's was with Johnny Carson.

    Anyway, just a theory of mine.
  3. Apr 5, 2013 #103 of 123

    Roadblock New Member

    Apr 5, 2006
    You refuse to watch these young hooligans and their shenanigans?

    I guess your sense of humor never made it out of the '80s.
  4. Apr 5, 2013 #104 of 123

    GoPackGo Active Member

    Dec 28, 2012
    I would LOVE for that to come true. Conan got jobbed.
  5. Apr 5, 2013 #105 of 123

    DevdogAZ Give em Hell, Devils

    Apr 16, 2003
    What would CBS' motivation be for doing this? They've now seen what kinds of ratings Conan gets at 11:35 on a broadcast network and at 11:00 on a cable network. I guarantee they would not be happy with the numbers Conan is pulling.

    The networks really have two options: fresh talent or new formats. I don't think Conan satisfies either if those.
  6. brianric

    brianric Active Member

    Aug 29, 2002
    Pennsville, NJ
  7. dfergie

    dfergie Member

    Aug 27, 2006
    I've watched Jimmy's late night and my sense of humor is just fine, I hope NBC goes down in flames again like the Coco fiasco... nothing against Jimmy but after having timers only interrupted by the Conan days of the Tonight Show with first Johnny, then Jay the tonight show will die for me when Jay leaves.
  8. replaytv

    replaytv gun talk ignore list

    Feb 20, 2011
    Denver ish...
    I don't like Ferguson. I can't stand to watch him except if his guest is interesting. That skull persona that he has on his show is middle school humor.

    I like Colbert, Fallon and Kimmel, but don't watch any of them as much as I use to watch Jay or John Carson.
  9. Steveknj

    Steveknj Lost in New Joisey

    Mar 10, 2003
    New Jersey
    I like Fallon. Much funnier than Jay. His stuff is so stale.

    Was at a restaurant last night and they had the Leno interview on 60 Minutes showing on one of the monitors. I couldn't hear it, but just looking at Jay, he looks like he could have been on the Sopranos. He reminds me of a cross between Johnny Sack and Paulie.
  10. scottjf8

    scottjf8 Dada and Kaya.

    Nov 11, 2001
    McKinney, TX
    Good interview on Today this morning with both Jay and jimmy (and Matt Lauer.). Part 2 next week.
  11. vertigo235

    vertigo235 Active Member TCF Club

    Oct 27, 2000
    I havn't really kept up with Fallon's show, but we watched that "Best of Jimmy Fallon" thing that was on a week or two ago and I was suprised how funny it was from start to end.

    I forgot how talented Fallon is as a performer and entertainer. Well I guess I really didn't know at all before. despite seeing him in SNL years ago.
  12. mlsnyc

    mlsnyc Member TCF Club

    Dec 2, 2009
    I saw that too and thought it was howlingly funny. But also had to keep in mind it's the best parts of several years of his show narrowed down to 2 hours minus commercials.

    I do like a lot of Fallon's bits (thank you notes, slow jamming the news, to name a couple) but don't watch his interviews so can't say if he is or isn't an interesting interviewer. To me an interviewer doesn't have to be hard hitting but their conversations should be interesting. Of the bigs -- Letterman, Leno, Conan, Kimmel -- none of them strike me as great conversationalists. It's primarily softball questions to celebs plugging their latest work. I kinda wish the format would change to something more like a variety show where the guests can just intro a clip so we don't have to sacrifice precious entertainment minutes enduring awkward chitchat.
  13. JYoung

    JYoung Series 3

    Jan 16, 2002
    Los Angeles
    It was interesting to see Mavis talking to the reporter.
    I can't recall ever seeing her interviewed.

    Leno said that this wasn't his idea so it makes think more so that Lorne Michaels is pushing for Leno to step down.

    I'm guessing that NBC will pay off the last year(s?) of Leno's contract.
  14. brianric

    brianric Active Member

    Aug 29, 2002
    Pennsville, NJ
    Leno said he was asked this time to step down, versus being told he was being replaced by Cowan.
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  16. Feb 2, 2014 #116 of 123

    wmcbrine Ziphead

    Aug 2, 2003
    I'm not getting why we're supposed to find him sympathetic.

    Uh, yeah, we know that's not what happened. Leno never wanted to quit. So what? How does that make him not the villain? He still got his damn prime-time show, undermining Conan, and ultimately showing that he only cared about himself, and not the institution that was "The Tonight Show".
  17. Feb 2, 2014 #117 of 123

    Amnesia The Question

    Jan 30, 2005
    Boston, MA
    Wait a minute...he's a villain because he wanted to keep working? Now if he took the 10pm show in order to "undermine" Conan", then yes, that would be villainous, but surely even you don't think that's what happened. And Conan's failure in any account was hardly due to Jay's show. His humor just didn't have the broad appeal of Jay's.

    One could certainly argue that anyone who cared about the "institution" of The Tonight Show would not have wanted Leno to have been pushed out for Conan (nor even now to be pushed out for Fallon). After all, he's still #1...

    If anyone didn't care about the "institution" of The Tonight Show, it was Conan's people who forced NBC to kick Jay out and the NBC execs who caved.
  18. Feb 2, 2014 #118 of 123

    GoPackGo Active Member

    Dec 28, 2012
    Chris Rock made a good point on Jerry Seinfeld's Comedians In Cars Getting Coffee.

    He said that if Conan had a background in standup, he never would have let Leno get that 10 pm show. Every standup knows that if the guy before you is a bigger star, then no one will stay to see your set.
  19. Feb 2, 2014 #119 of 123

    vertigo235 Active Member TCF Club

    Oct 27, 2000
    But he was fairly successful in the 12:30 slot
  20. Feb 2, 2014 #120 of 123

    GoPackGo Active Member

    Dec 28, 2012
    True, but Rock's point was that a comedian would have never agreed to the deal in the first place.

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